In their latest ads, ITT Tech (an ACICS--national accreditation--school) has a disclaimer warning that their credits will likely not transfer.
And remember RA schools reject transfer credit from other RA schools as well. At least ITT Tech is up front about the potential lack of transferability. However, for those without aspirations to continue onto graduate studies ACICS might be sufficient. On another but related subject, is DETC superior to ACICS?
But if RA schools reject another RA school's credits, it is on a case-by-case basis, not as an institutional policy. ITT has to state it up-front in order to avoid consumer backlash. Comparing that to the RA situation of individual schools making individual decisions on individual situations is wrong.
I had always noticed that ITT Tech stated that credits earned were unlikely to transfer. Until I really learned about accreditation, I always assumed they said this because they wanted you to stay at ITT Tech to finish their programs. Either way, at least they are being upfront and honest. -Matt
Rich, you are little late on noticing that disclaimer. ITT has included that disclaimer in their commercials for at least two years.
"ITT has to state it up-front in order to avoid consumer backlash. Comparing that to the RA situation of individual schools making individual decisions on individual situations is wrong." Most specialized schools, RA or NA, have a disclaimer like that. Two examples: Academy of Art University and Savannah College of Art and Design. Both RA and both have such disclaimers.
ITT has gained a reputation in the past for their recruiters wrongly advising students on the transferability of their credits. I personally haven't attended ITT nor know of anyone who has but it was mentioned enough on forums that it led me to believe that it could be happening. Having seen the ITT commercials for years it seems that only within the last couple of years has this notice been provided.
When I enrolled at St. Joseph's College of Maine in their MBA program they warned me that their credits would likely not transfer and when I transfered, they were right.
In the on line Dl world one shouldn't always look in confines of their border. All 100% of persons with ITT credits successfully evaluated by other countries such as NARIC UK and in Australia, South Africa and other English and non English speaking countries. All are able to transfer credit to foreign universities as a policy as most foreign DL and non DL universities rely on NARIC or agency with in ministry of education or their own evaluation of foreign credits and at least so far they are not discriminating between recognized accredited credits from other countries with respectful education system. So when my close friend with ITT degree and another 2 friends with Aspen degrees (DETC) had issues to transfer credit or be accepted to graduate school of their choice including my friend David with BA degree from Cal State Long Beach (RA) they all got accepted to Graduate DL universities overseas. Also there are bridge universities in USA that are NA and RA accredited such universities as Western Governors University that will accept NA credits as they are DETC accredited. I don't know if they accept ITT credits do. But in this economy I expect RA universities to flex. One more point is that a person who attended ITT gains good knowledge and is able to test out on many subjects so in worse case scenario they can test out and get lots of RA credit that way.
I learned a lot at ITT Tech that is directly applicable in my job in telecommunications. I was also not ready for a school where it was not heavily focused on a technical hands on area, so it really helped me learn to love learning again. ITT taught me so much about computer networking and telecommunications technology that I have an edge on many of my co-workers who have BAs from 4 year universities but may not have studied directly in the technology we work with. Because of ITT Tech, I was able to move on to Mt. Sierra college and earn my bachelors in 2 years, they are also ACICS. I have now moved onto an RA school, Keller, who accepts RA and ACICS degrees for admittance into their graduate program. They are an RA school. I would not go back and do things differently if I could, ITT has made me very successful.
This poster clearly demonstrates the admonition often offered regarding such matters: It Depends. While broad generalizations are useful when discussing these topics, it is essential to note that each person's individual situation can vary.
I have both my aas and bs from ITT. I to leanred about. The one thing i liked about ITT was the individual attention from my instructors, they were always available to me, unlike my instructors at RA schools that i also attended. I knew going into ITT that the credits would most likely not transfer but i was ok with considering the fact that i had no plans on going any further with my edumocation. I worked in the tech sector for about 2.5 years before the big tech crash then spent about another 2 years working for the local school district and then a start up. I am currently the face of my families busines and since we are mainly an internet based business I can still apply me education to work. So yes, i guess i am an ITT success story... kind of....