Is AIU Trying to Become the UoP?

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  1. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    That's what I was told by one of our professors when I was in graduate school. Subsequently, I did a google search to look at the requirements for teaching positions at community colleges in the SACS region and found that those were their requirements.
     
  2. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

     
  3. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member


    Nope - some JC's in CA offer AA's and some offer AS degrees -- some both. They are basically interchangeable and require the same general education requirements. Chabot didn't offer an AS in Electronics Tech - but DeAnza's ET degree is an AS with exactly the same GE requirements. (at least in 1985). Now - some private colleges such as Heald and DeVry has AS and AAS (applied associate degrees) - now they are are technicial with the GE classes merely for show purposes -- but that is different than the public collegs.

    Also - in CA, you need a Masters to teach in a CC -- been that way for a while now. Of course, you can teach at some lackey school like Sequoia Institute (if you like working with ex-cons and other low lifes) with just about any level of college degree
     
  4. agilham

    agilham New Member

    Buried deep in section 3.7 of SACS accreditation principles http://www.sacscoc.org/pdf/PrinciplesOfAccreditation.PDF you will find:

    Basically, it seems as if the 18 graduate hours apply to pretty much everything except an AAS or one of those rare AA's that are in something like fine or design arts.

    Angela
     
  5. chydenius

    chydenius New Member

    I am going by ads that I have seen for adjunct positions at different schools.

    However, DaveHayden indicates that one can teach in California with only a Bachelors degree.
     
  6. chydenius

    chydenius New Member

    Yes. In SACS-accredited schools, AS courses can be taught by instructors who hold AS degrees and the relevant certifications, if there are any. This includes AS degrees in Medical Assisting, Physical Therapy, Computer Networking, and other vocational programs.

    For AA, BA, and BS programs (there is effectively no distinction between BA and BS degrees for the purposes here), the instructor must have a) any regionally-accredited Masters degree, and b) 18 graduate credits in the subject taught. I gather that 'or a related subject' might be acceptable in some schools, but many are strict on this point.

    BTW, if you are considering going into online teaching, my experience has been that it is particularly difficult to find qualified instructors in Accounting, Finance, and Marketing.

    It seems that most CPAs complete their educational requirements with undergraduate courses, anyone with graduate degree in Finance is either rich or psychotic, and most people in marketing have MBAs with fewer than 18 credits in Marketing.

    [Apologies to any Finance people here. Don't shoot.]
     
  7. agilham

    agilham New Member

    http://www.ncahigherlearningcommission.org/download/FacultyQual.pdf

    This presents a much more nuanced approach to the credentials problem than SACS' 18 graduate hours or nowt, as it both recognises that "there are limitations to considering only the degrees earned" and goes on to suggest that "tested experience" may be used to determine qualified faculty.

    I'd be much more likely to get my MA in Classical Civilisation (three year long courses and a dissertation) past the NCA as a qualification to teach ancient history or classics at the CC level than I would SACS.

    Angela
     
  8. PaulC

    PaulC Member

    As you have offered by way of link, there are no such things as "requirements" for teaching credentials from NCA. There are actually far fewer "requirements" in the whole accreditation process than some may otherwise think. Another example is that NCA, and others, have no requirement regulating the acceptance of courses or degree in transfer, though some may presume they do.
     

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