IQ, Level of Education and "Mental Age"

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  1. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    Several weeks ago, a member of this forum started a thread on the correlation between IQ and ones level of education.The following may shed some light on the issue:

    I found this article quite interesting. Congratulations to all of you who hold undergraduate and graduate degrees. According to this article, you are in the "top tier" group.
  2. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    It is an interesting article . . . but I have a problem with an author who writes "Drs. Richard Feynmann and Albert Einstein would be examples of geniuses who were extremely strong mathematically while being relatively weak verbally. " I believe they both wrote quite eloquently.

    Let's see, if Einstein had an IQ of 200 at age 65,

    IQ = mental age / 100
    . physical age

    then he'd be as smart as a person of age 130.

    John Bear, at least sharing a
    birthday with Albert

    [email protected] New Member

    BBC radio once did a parody of the Open University called "the Half-Open University". The announcer named 4 professors who were about to lecture: one of the surnames was Einstein. The announcer said, "First, we will hear from Professor Einstein."

    Another voice began: "Hullo. This is Professor Jim Einstein. No relation, of course, to my famous cousin, Professor Albert Einstein. But enough of my relativity problems...."
  4. Dr. Gina

    Dr. Gina New Member

    I have copied this part of the article for everyone's reference:

    Table 1 - Practical Significance of IQ

    IQ Range- Frequency - Cumulative Frequency- Typical Educability - Employment Options

    Below 30
    >1% >1% below 30 Illiterate Unemployable. Institutionalized.

    30 to 50
    >1%? >1% below 50 1st-Grade to 3rd-Grade Simple, non-critical household chores.

    50 to 60
    ~1%? 1.5% below 60 3rd-Grade to 6th-grade Very simple tasks, close supervision.

    60 to 74
    3.5%? 5% below 74 6th-Grade to 8th-Grade "Slow, simple, supervised."

    74 to 89
    20% 25% below 89 8th-Grade to 12th-Grade Assembler, food service, nurse's aide

    89 to 100
    25% 50% below 100 8th-Grade to 1-2 years of College. Clerk, teller, Walmart
    100 to 111
    50% 1 in 2 above 100 12th-Grade to College Degree Police officer, machinist, sales
    111 to 120
    15% 1 in 4 above 111 College to Master's Level Manager, teacher, accountant
    120 to 125
    5% 11 in 10above 120 College to Non-Technical Ph. D.'s. Manager, professor, accountant
    125 to 132
    3% 1 in 20 above 125 Any Ph. D. at 3rd-Tier Schools Attorney, editor, executive.
    132 to 137
    1% 1 in 50 above 132 No limitations. Eminent professor, editor
    137 to 150
    0.9% 1 in 100 above 137 No limitations. Leading math, physics professor
    150 to 160
    0.1% 1 in 1,100 above 150 No limitations Lincoln, Copernicus, Jefferson
    160 to 174
    0.01% 1 in 11,000 above 160 No limitations Descartes, Einstein, Spinoza
    174 to 200
    0.0099% 1 in 1,000,000
    above 174 No limitations Shakespeare, Goethe, Newton

    Being in the social services field, I have worked with many individuals who have very high IQ's and were either Schizophrenic or suffered from some other mental illness or were socially inept. On the other end of the scale, I have worked with many mentally retarded individuals (IQ below 70) who functioned very well in many jobs (McDonalds, Post Office, Clerical Duties) and were more productive workers than the "NOrmal" IQ employees there. My point being that an IQ does not determine how successful or brilliant or productive one can be. Enviromental factors, family supports, ect.. play a part in this as well. In fact, many sucessful businessmen and individuals in their field fall in the first 2 standard deviations in the IQ bell curve (68% of the population IQ's fall within the 85-115 range).

    Besides some of the info in the article has erronious information. a better link/site would be here:
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