How can I do this as easy as possible?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by wwfjdraw, Dec 11, 2009.

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  1. wwfjdraw

    wwfjdraw New Member

    My plan is to graduate with as little work as possible as many of you already know, and I thought instead of cluttering up the forum it would be appreciated if I documented my experience and questions here in my own little thread, (assuming thats ok with admin/moderators).

    So far as I've stated before,

    I want a bachelors (hopefully not an associates) in business of some kind, and another bachelors in criminal justice.

    I've decided that between Charter oak and Tesc are my best bets. (Atleast that's what I think, if anyone has any better ideas please let me know.)

    Here is a list of options regarding getting a degree. In the options you'll see comments and questions. Please answer these questions as best as possible for they will be the determining factor of which college, major, degree, and courses or concentration I will persue.

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    In order from favorite to least my two first picks so far are


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    My third favorite is

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    As for my fourth pick (assuming this is harder then the first three).

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    And for my fith pick,
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    And for my sixth pick,
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    And last picks

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    General opinions and feedback and help or suggestions in change of rank from easiest to hardest are welcome. Thank you all.
     
  2. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    Here are my thoughts,

    I would stay away from the individualized studies degrees unless you have a good deal of prior learning you can document via portfolio, CLEP/DSST, older credits, etc.

    If you are starting from zero or close to that, if cost is your concern, you should go to:

    http://www.geteducated.com/online-college-ratings-and-rankings/best-buy-lists/best-buy-online-bachelor-business-management

    In addition, if you are starting from scratch and you don't want to go the CLEP/DSST route, you should be able to complete a good deal of Gen Ed work though Clovis Community College: www.clovis.edu.

    The #3 choice you listed from COSC is a bachelor's degree - those courses are just the courses in the major; the concentration does not list the required Gen Ed courses and electives required.

    Hope this helps, and good luck.

    Shawn
     
  3. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    "How can I do this as easy as possible? "

    No degree is easy - if you mean 'flexible' have you looked at Excelsior's degrees in business? I suspect that it may be a lower overall cost option than TESC. They also except challenge exams such as CLEP & DSST.
     
  4. ITJD

    ITJD Guest

    "My plan is to graduate with as little work as possible"

    My advice to you is to change your paradigm immediately. Online work is not easier than brick and mortar work unless you go somewhere where the education is dubious and the money just as green.
     
  5. taylor

    taylor New Member

    Currently, I attend TESC and have been happy with the most part except their stringent policies on graduation dates. I have to second Ian's thoughts that from what I've read Excelsior seems to be the most flexible and the most efficient option for adult learners trying to obtain a degree. As far as your plan of getting 2 Bachelor's degrees. I would think obtaining 1 Bachelor's and then pursuing a Masters degree would be a better plan for most, but then again I don't know your situation.
     
  6. leo

    leo New Member

    "My plan is to graduate with as little work as possible"

    How much do you expect to learn? Why even bother?:eek:
     
  7. LoraJ

    LoraJ New Member

    In my experience, distance learning is much more work than your typical b&m. Much more writing, many more papers, etc. You also actually have to participate.

    I am not understanding why you would want to cheat yourself out of a good education.
     
  8. major56

    major56 Active Member

    Seemingly this poster is seeking instant gratification (e.g., degree). I’m in concurrence with your response LoraJ…
     
  9. Doctor Doctor

    Doctor Doctor New Member

    If you want "easy," then go to a large brick-and-mortar school, where you can simply show up to large lecture classes, listen and perhaps jot down a few notes, and take multiple-choice exams. Be warned, though. You will have to write some essays for your smaller, upper-division courses.

    This all comes with a caveat: If you want "easy," then you have to set your end-goal expectations accordingly. You need to be okay with getting mediocre grades.
     
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  10. rickyjo

    rickyjo Guest

    Sadly I have no information for this poster; however, I'm frustrated that so few of us understand why he needs what he needs and why his goals are what they are.

    Good grief, there are many good things I've cut corners around in life in order to do something I wanted more. I'm sure you've all done the same. This is the same thing as being lazy in a CLASS you think is irrelevant to you. In this case the poster believe he has little to benefit from this mode of education. I can really understand that. I've had the same goal as him from time to time and YES I've learned lots of things I'm glad to have learned I didn't expect, but I could have been doing things that are more specific and relevant. I suppose my goals have drifted a bit now... if he's wrong he will learn about it sooner or later. If he's right, then we are wrong to discourage him from achieving a credential he needs right now.

    We should encourage anyone who wants to honestly gain credentials regardless of their methodology! It will be valuable to him if he is already knowledgeable in his field, and that's a fact.
     
  11. Petedude

    Petedude New Member

    Easy how?

    I think this is a key point. The poster doesn't specify in what manner he wants his program to be "easy". . . minimal homework? few exams? minimal time investment?

    At face value, I'd recommend the Big 3 assessment schools-- TESC, Excelsior and COSC. These are only "easy" in the aspect that they may require less time and paperwork commitment in some aspects than most regular B&M or online programs.

    I've heard things about University of Phoenix being an "easy" program, but I've also heard some extremely negative things about that school. Anything that is too easy in general probably deserves a "caveat emptor".
     
  12. TMW2009

    TMW2009 New Member

    Here are a few quotes from the original poster which should shed some light on what he's looking for -

    I think its pretty clear what this individual is looking for... Shrug.

    A moderator may nuke this message if it is against the TOS to quote from other forums without the user's permission.
     
  13. PatsGirl1

    PatsGirl1 New Member

    Yep, most definitely a lot more work. B&M you can be a "seat filler" and still get a decent GPA (I know; I did it). With DL you have to WORK for it. The time management required alone makes it more difficult.
     
  14. ITJD

    ITJD Guest

    Are we sure this guy isn't just trolling? It seems the entire point of his message was to be antithetical to the point this site exists?
     
  15. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    Probably, there is another thread on here where someone was trolling about UofP.

    What's funny about theses situations is that it gets the members talking and discussing one of our favorite subjects.

    Its better than another which PhD do I pursue thread, IMHO.
     
  16. StevenKing

    StevenKing Member

    Agreed...moderator please nuke thread...

    Obvious troll. 'Nuff said.
     
  17. lawrenceq

    lawrenceq Member

    I knew this thread would get ugly after I read the title. Take it easy people.
     
  18. DBA_Curious

    DBA_Curious New Member

    I couldn't disagree with this post more if I wanted to - and I do!

    Why should we encourage someone whose stated purpose is one that degrades distance learning as a channel? Would he go to a board set up for Harvard students and say "How do I get through Harvard without doing any real work?" and not expect criticism?

    Folks here are fans of distance learning because of the opportunities it represents. Many resent the notion that it's easy because that ultimately undermines the opportunities. How many universities would want to be associated with a mindset such as the OP espouses?

    If you want to support something because you're into self-help at any cost, be my guest but don't expect to follow blindly.
     
  19. rickyjo

    rickyjo Guest

    Thank you for your post DBA_Curious... it was a good one. You forced me to reconsider my definitions and the way I'm presenting myself. Perhaps I misunderstood the OP, but let me make sure you and I understand each other.

    I do want to say that I did not intend to support cheating.
    I have not noticed any of his posts condoning that. Perhaps I was cursory in my reading.

    Also there are easy ways to get credit at say, a community college, such as easy classes. I've taken an easy class for the purpose of getting easy credit. Heck I did this in high school so I could focus on my honors or AP level classes without distraction from what I considered "Fluff".

    FEMA credit, ALEKS, StraighterLine, they are "easy" on one level or another, that doesn't mean you don't have to work. I certainly want to know about these things, my intent was to help the poster discover these "easy" things. In mind mind easy is either

    *Fast
    *Cheap
    *Lacking the bureaucracy of regular college.
    *simple and uncluttered
    Usually fast+cheap=easy in my mind even if I have to work hard.

    I also think it is OK to try and get a piece of paper. I think that's the point for a lot of people in all forms of higher education. Proctoring, and certain kinds of structure take away from the benefits of distance education and bring us towards brick-and-mortar school learning: Mostly that you have to be somewhere else and involve other people in your studies as well as COST.

    I'm all about the money. If it's expensive it's not easy. If it's slow, it's not easy. If it's full of superfluous material, it's likely slow and subsequently not easy. I don't want to pay to learn something I already know, I don't want spend so much time on school that I cannot work or spend time with my wife.

    Thanks again for the good post. Your point is made.
     
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