HES Now Allows Subsequent Master's in Similar Fields

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  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Moreover, Harvard University says that HES graduates are Harvard University alumni. Given that, I don't know how anyone can keep arguing otherwise, because that's a wrap.
     
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  2. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Yup

    And here are two Harvard Extension diplomas. One from LinkedIn and the other X.
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  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    As with all of the schools at Harvard, the degree is awarded by Harvard University, not the Extension School. Law, medicine, undergraduates (Harvard College), around a dozen different schools conduct instruction, but one earns a degree from Harvard University.
     
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  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    And they are wrong.

    People who complete a degree through HES receive a degree from Harvard University, not HES. This is true of all the Harvard schools.
     
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  5. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    I totally agree! Harvard is Harvard regardless of school you graduate from within Harvard University likes 43 colleges/schools within the University of Oxford.

    University of Oxford's Schools and Colleges:
    • Oxford Colleges.
    • All Souls College.
    • Christ Church College.
    • Green Templeton College.
    • Jesus College.
    • Lady Margaret Hall.
    • Magdalen College.
    • New College.
    URL: https://www.oxfordna.org/colleges
     
  6. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    This is true for all universities. Certainly correct me if I am wrong.
     
  7. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Here is the saga of HES is real Harvard or likes shopping Louis Vuitton at an Outlet Mall. So the argument is that if you get a Bachelor "ALB" degree from HES, but only put Harvard University confuse employers and others as it is from Harvard College, a prestigious undergraduate granting institution within Harvard University.
    Harvard University's Blog: Why the Harvard Extension School still struggles with reputation
     
  8. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    That guy's blog is nonsensical in a couple of spots and I disagree.

    If you went to Cornell University you probably are going to put Cornell University on your resume and your degree. Not that you graduated from a certain college within Cornell University.

    An exception to that of course is that people who graduate from certain well-respected schools within the University system usually put the name of their school (eg Wharton) or if you graduated from Harvard Medical School you're going to put Harvard Medical School.

    It is perfectly legitimate to put that you have a master's degree in liberal arts focusing in whatever from Harvard University if you graduated from the extension School.

    What would not be legitimate would be to state that you graduated from Harvard Business School when you got a Masters degree in Mgt from Harvard Extension School. Just as it wouldn't be if you got a bachelor's degree in biology from Harvard and then started writing that you graduated from Harvard Medical School
     
  9. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    @TEKMAN

    I will say that I do agree that it would not be legitimate to say that you graduated from Harvard College if you graduated from the extension School. That is a distinct entity within Harvard University. But again 100% legitimate for somebody to State they graduated from Harvard University with an extension bachelors or masters degree and not even necessarily put extension school. I don't put college of arts and sciences for my undergraduate degree when I list the University. I just put the University, the degree I earned and what it is in.
     
  10. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    I agree, I only put the name of the University/College - without putting a specific name of the school within the university/college. Otherwise, it would be.

    • University of the Cumberland - Graduate School of Information Science- Ph.D. in Information Technology
    • Imperial College London - Imperial Business School - Master of Business Administration (MBA) in Management
    • Georgetown University - School of Continuing Studies - Master of Professional Studies (MPS) in Technology Management
    • Southern Methodist University - Lyle School of Engineering - Master of Science (MS) in Telecommunications Engineering
    • Troy University - University College - Bachelor of Science (BS) in Computer Science.
     
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  11. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    In many places that you would apply for a job they don't even really care about the specific college within a university as they are looking for where you went to school and what degree you have. Now for some prestigious entities things like Wharton would matter. In other situations the fact of an accredited degree is simply a checkbox, more important may be what it's in, and even more important may be your experience that will get you an interview and how well you do on any in baskets.

    Some distinctions are lost on people. It was just today that I found out there is a difference between Harvard University and Harvard College (that is a distinct subdivision of Harvard University).

    I also discovered there is a Cornell University which is different from Cornell College. In that case it is not like Harvard University as they are entirely distinct entities. I believe Cornell College got to keep the name because they were actually established before Cornell University by some Methodist entity. But I can see that causing confusion all the time because all you see is Cornell and it's impressive. And there are probably a few Cornell College graduates who have received the benefit of that Cornell name. "Gosh...you went to Cornell"! But not the one with the 7% acceptance rate.
     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Depends on how they're structured. If they're set up as separate institutions--sometimes even separate campuses, then each will award its own degrees.

    But we're talking about Harvard here, so the statement stands.
     
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  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    To be clear, they expect graduates to list the degree as one "extension studies," as in "Master of Liberal Arts in Extension Studies," followed by the specialty. This is particularly ridiculous since no one actually studies the field of "extension studies." It's just Harvard trying to not be Harvard while selling being Harvard. If I did the degree, I'd list it as "ALM in History, Harvard University" and let the haters hate.
     
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  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Technically, my first degree is a Bachelor of Science in General Studies with a concentration in Information Systems Studies. Given that a concentration there requires as many credits as a major elsewhere, I don't think the way I list it in my sig here is duplicitous. And if I earned a degree through HES I would probably style it similarly, e.g., "MLA, Global Development Practice specialization, Harvard University". Although that's easy to say since there's no chance I'll ever actually do that.
     
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