Help with TUI courses

tesch,

That's great perspective. I'm doing a little PhD shopping - or perhaps nosing - and am a tad book fixated, so your post hit the spot.

 

tesch,

Let me explain my comparison of TUI MS classes and NCU PhD classes. When I was taking the TUI classes, I asked if the PhD classes were in the same format and I was told yes. The NCU MBA and PhD classes appear to be the same (same course ID number).

If I am wrong, please don’t tar and feather me! Were the classes for the TUI MBA and PhD the same format? Thank you for your thoughtful response.

 

I find this thread very interesting and I don't doubt what Randall is saying is true. I don't think his comparison is apples to oranges. Take NCU for example. The master’s level and doctorate level courses are essentially the same with the exception of an added assignment for doctoral learners. I wouldn't doubt that other universities [such as TUI] are doing something similar. The fact that NCU uses books while TUI uses CDs doesn’t automatically make TUI’s courses research based. TUI uses CD’s for all of their programs (bachelor’s, master’s, and doctorate). NCU uses books to derive the basic course lessons but also expects students to do quite a bit of research from many sources in order to write some of the required papers.

Randell, for what it's worth, I'm on your side on this issue. I can’t figure out where exactly you bashed your old alma mater but it is apparent that some are very sensitive about this. And I am not bashing TUI…I think TUI is an excellent choice.

 

Thank you...I do think TUI is a good choice. Here are my comments from another thread..
You are absolutely right!!!! Everyone has their own style that works for them. I prefer books. The CD's worked well because it was all right there and there were links to other schools websites with up to date information.

Don't misunderstand...I did learn at TUI, but it did not seem as focused as I wanted it to be. I guess I could have asked what text book(s) would complement the class but I never did.

Maybe the old curriculum is not what I wanted. I know looking at the new curriculum for the MS-ITM, I think “I wish I was in the program now. It seems more focused and structured.” As I am writing this I just had an epiphany. It may not have been the lack of books…it was, what I perceive as, the lack of focus. The NCU program allows you to select electives that create a sense of continuity. My TUI classes were - ITM505, MKT501, ITM504, MGT501 , ETH501, ITM503 , ECM501 , ECM502 , and BUS508.


The new courses are more IT focused.

Thank you Billy...by the way I still like books

 

Randall,

I had no intention of tar and feathering anyone; my apology if it appeared that way. Instead, the purpose of my message was to clarify and correct the record based on first hand knowledge and to help illustrate how books may be more applicable for different levels/types of coursework than what is common to PhD programs.

In terms of your assumption (and information you received) that the coursework at TUI for the MBA and PhD programs are same is incorrect. Perhaps the format, meaning the number of modules, threaded discussions, and use of Horizon Live may be similar, but the course format related to subject matter, content,, focus, and assignment requirements are entirely different. A few years ago, some of the course numbers at the 500 and 600 levels both aligned. However, things have changed significantly over the past few years.

The following links are to the current MBA and PhD course curriculums:

http://www.tourou.edu/cba/mba.htm

http://www.tourou.edu/cba/phd.htm

As you can see, the core courses and vast majority (if not all) of the elective course numbers and course descriptions are quite different. My son just finished the coursework phase of the PhD program and I clearly see that each of his courses and content are much different between the MBA and PhD programs. Additionally, as faculty, I have observed and participated on committees that compare and gap each program and coursework to other research universities, review course objectives and content, review subject/content matrix, and establish rubrics. Again, from first hand knowledge, a comparison between MBA and PhD level courses and coursework is like comparing apples and oranges.

Perhaps the MBA and PhD courses are similar or common between both programs at NCU. I have no direct experience with the school, so I cannot say. NCU appears to admit students to the PhD program with only a bachelor degree, so it is possible that the line between masters and PhD level coursework at NCU is more obscure. However, that is not the case at TUI.

Again, my apology if my first message appeared terse.

I hope this helps.

Tom

 

I meant the "tar and feather" comment as tounge-in-cheek. Thank you for the clarification. I knew the classes were different but I was told the format was the same except for a few live / streaming video courses.

Again, thank you.