Hamas's murderous attack on Israel and its response sparked heated debates inuniversities

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Hamas's murderous attack on Israel and its response have sparked heated debates at some of the most prestigious universities in the US, where the future generation of America's leaders are raised and which also serve as hotbeds of activism. At Harvard, Stanford and New York University (NYU), fierce clashes between students, lecturers and managers for conversations today on social networks and from there they reached the media and politicians in Washington.

    In some cases, people's views on the war cost them job offers or even threats of violence. At Harvard, a statement of support for Hamas, signed by several student groups, drew angry reactions.

    basically I think based on Islam, Israel shouldn't exist have leaders, institutions and army, they view 1948 and 1967 all as occupation, Israel should convert to Islam or be under Islamic country and rule.
    So this is why the formation of the state of Israel is viewed as occupation.
    Some Arab countries moved away from this concept but people at large % , Muslims appear didn't.
     
  2. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    University campuses always have been settings for passionate, even mildly violent debate. During the Vietnam War the violence wasn't always mild.

    I have my own strong opinions on this subject but I would rather college kids were exposed to all sides of a serious and controversial debate. Yes, it gets roudy, disruptive, even scary at times but I'd rather the kids were shouting instead of ignoring the issues.
     
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  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Troubles of Jacob:
    Another front, internal one.
    Some areas distribute weapons to it residents.

     
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Palestinians and Israelis both need to be assured of safe places to live. The current war against Gaza is completely justified. Hamas declared war on Jews and Israel. Israel has every right to defend themselves. Although I'm not so sure that bombing the hell out of innocent Palestinians is the best approach. What is the plan? Israel can't rule Gaza. That would be a disaster. I think the path has to be somehow convincing the Palestinians that Hamas is not governing in the peoples best interest. Maybe I'm just being naïve?
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    From what I read in the Israeli news, Israel may shrink the size of Gaza, possibly annexing part of it. This is following the plan to remove Hamas from power in Gaza.
     
  6. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Yes and it's not a good idea. I don't know where tge answers lie but making things even worse for Gaza certainly isn't the way to go.
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Very interesting information, thank you for sharing.

    I really appreciate Biden's statement about the USA making some mistakes in our response to the 9/11 attacks. It is a most excellent analogy. It seems to me that Israel may be making a similar mistake perhaps by over reacting in a similar fashion.

    I would love to know what Hamas was thinking the Israeli reaction would be. If Israel didn't do a full scale invasion would the Palestinians blame Hamas for this or would it strengthen Hamas with the Gaza people?
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Remember that the leadership of Hamas lives safely in Qatar, so that may figure into their motivations.
     
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  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    And that has been the case with Palestinian Arab leadership all along. The elites leave and the ordinary people suffer.
     

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