GED

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  1. etech

    etech New Member

    I could be wrong but I think I came across it somewhere, does Excelsior college also awards General Education Diploma (GED) for those who have completed a certain number of credits with them ?
     
  2. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    I tried the following search on Google:
    site:.excelsior.edu ged
    There is no mention of GED anywhere on Excelsior's Website.

    I think only ACE offers the GED:
    http://www.acenet.edu/calec/ged/
     
  3. etech

    etech New Member

    this is basically a general question. Is an associate degree equivalent or more than GED ? someone who has earned an Associate degree but has no high school/GED, can AS degree be treated as same or more than High school/GED ? can he apply to positions which only require a high school diploma ? or does he need to go back and get GED even though he has AS degree ?
     
  4. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    > Is an associate degree equivalent or more than GED ?
    > someone who has earned an Associate degree but has no
    > high school/GED, can AS degree be treated as same or more
    > than High school/GED ? can he apply to positions which only
    > require a high school diploma ?


    Yes, yes, and yes.

    > or does he need to go back and get GED even though he
    > has AS degree ?


    I suppose some employer somewhere may require the GED as well, but that would be unusual.
     
  5. etech

    etech New Member

    Thanks Mark.. I would like to hear from others on their perception of this topic.
     
  6. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    "If you are a New York State resident and do not have a high school diploma, Excelsior College can help you obtain a high school equivalency diploma after you have accumulated 24 college credits. This diploma is issued by the New York State Education Department. For further information, contact the New York State Education High School Equivalency Department at 518-474-5906."
    http://www.excelsior.edu/pdf/Technology_Catalog.pdf

    You might be interested in reading the thread high school truant with Excelsior College degree.
     
  7. vlad621

    vlad621 New Member

    My employer will not accept a bachelors degree without a high school diploma. I think this is an extension of the debate about an MBA without a bachelors degree. they are not equivalent. a graduate degree is more specialized than an undergrad degree and an undergrad degree is more specialized than a high school diploma. In hiring someone without a high school diploma you run the risk of hiring an english major with eighth grade math skills because he can get his degree with out taking a math class, conversly you can get a math major with poor writing skills for the same reason.
     
  8. etech

    etech New Member

    aha!.. so I did came across this.

    Now does this means Excelsior will also offer GED to their students even though its not listed on their site anywhere ? Is this offering only for New York residents ?

    Another question, Dennis mentioned in the old post that there is no mention of requiring a GED/High school Diploma to enrol in Excelsior BS program, however I found in Excelsior's enrolment form there is a mention of High school diploma.


    http://www.excelsior.edu/pdf/Undergraduate_enrollment_form.pdf

    Is it still correct that there is no requirement of GED or HS to enrol at TESC or Excelsior ?

    comments pls.
     
  9. etech

    etech New Member

    what if the degree you received has extensive Math and English courses, like Excelsior's BS programs, which has Stats, Maths, English and a lot more ? would this still apply ?
     
  10. vlad621

    vlad621 New Member

    They still require the high school diploma
     
  11. etech

    etech New Member

    I know someone from Britain who went into obtaining technical diploma (I think 2 years) right after doing GCSE. So in US terms he does not hold a high school diploma. He later went to complete his Honours degree.
     
  12. vlad621

    vlad621 New Member

    I am not disputing that he can get an honours degree, getting into university without a high school diploma is fairly easy, the problem may come when you go looking for a job as I said my employer requires the diploma.
     
  13. etech

    etech New Member

    your company could be an exception. I have not seen this at other places unless the requirement is a HS diploma. I know people working in IT companies who dont have HS but have a degree.


    would like hear from Mark and others on my actual question, whether there is a requirement at Excelsior/TESC for HS/GED ? and if Excelsior would also award GED after certain number of credits ?
     
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  14. Dennis

    Dennis New Member

    etech, you don't have to possess a GED/High School diploma in order to start studying with Excelsior. When I was enrolling at Excelsior, I remember, there was a question whether I have a High School Diploma. I checked "no" and was admitted without any problems.
    Since I thought it was a good idea to have at least a GED and, unfortunately, I wasn't a New York State resident I registered at the prometric testing center and took successfully the GED exam a couple of months after enrollment at Excelsior.

    Dennis
     
  15. etech

    etech New Member

    Thanks Dennis for clarification.

    are there any schools that offer DL courses to prepare for GED ? or any books that covers the contents to prepare for the exams ? I think there are five tests to take.

    and would it sound really bad if someone has a degree first and then went and took GED after earning the degree :eek:
     
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  16. plumbdog10

    plumbdog10 New Member

    I talked recently to a young man who was attepting to complete his high school diploma or take the GED exam. He found that his local school district had an adult school that offered a number of programs (GED preperation course, high school completion courses, tuitoring, etc) offered both distance learning and traditionally at night for a very reasonable fee. Here in California most of the local school districts provide some sort of adult education program, but I can't comment on other states.

    I would call your local school district.
     
  17. cmt

    cmt New Member

    GCSE's are at least equal to a HS diploma. I was accepted into a US university based soley on my GCSE certificates and an entrance exam at the age of 16. I ended up moving back to Europe, but regardless, I was accepted. My GCSE's also allowed me to enter the US military without any waivers, which means they were viewed as equal to or greater than a HS diploma.
     
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  18. Dennis

    Dennis New Member

    I think a GED/High School Diploma makes your personal record complete. In my case I took the GED in the same year I started my Excelsior degree, though I got the GED a couple of months later. I think it's better getting the GED prior to the undergraduate degree, However, getting it sometimes later looks still better than no GED at all. On the other hand, I know people who never have had a GED/High School Diploma and went on to the Master and even Ph.D. level study after completing their Bachelors degrees.

    For my studies I used the "Cracking the GED" from Princeton Review. It was the only book I worked through and it was enough to pass. There are no grades for the GED exams only pass/fail.
    You can get the book from Amazon here:
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0375763406/qid=1071406198/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/103-1629854-5084641?v=glance&s=books

    Dennis
     
  19. etech

    etech New Member


    yes thats the exact purpose, to make the record complete. I know one can go and do their Masters, PhD without it.

    BTW, I read that you have to take all 5 tests at the same time, that is in one sitting? what if you fail one test or do not get the required score, can you retake one test or do you have to take all again ?

    Thanks.
     
  20. Dennis

    Dennis New Member

    Here is the information from the official GED website:
    http://www.acenet.edu/calec/ged/2002_info_TT.cfm

    "What if I don’t pass all the tests the first time?
    You can take one or more of the tests again. However, note that many jurisdictions have special requirements for candidates who don’t pass the GED Tests the first time. You may be required to wait several months or show proof of attending a preparation course before you’re permitted to re-test. You may also have to pay an additional fee. For the specific regulations in your area, check with your state, province, or territory’s contact person for GED testing."

    Regards,

    Dennis
     

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