Florida shines under DeSantis' leadership.

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-shines-under-desantis-leadership-080749160.html

    If you've wondered why folks are flocking to Florida and presume it's the sun, sand and surf, I have a better reason. Florida has much more to offer than its superior location and warmth. It has a great governor.

    Florida has become one of the most popular and conservative states in America. Those two things are intertwined. While governors in blue states are losing residents by the thousands, hiking taxes and unable to fix crime, unemployment and homelessness, Gov. Ron DeSantis has turned the former swing state into a solidly red state.

    That's exactly why Florida and its residents are thriving. The Republican party and voters should take note − and so should DeSantis. Their dance with each other may not be over yet.
     
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Well, that's awfully hagiographic.
     
  3. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    First off, I love this as a perfect DegreeInfo post. Using a fun little used word but the perfect spot for it. Back to the topic at hand, it is marked as an opinion piece. :)
     
  4. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Opinion piece. Doesn't that describe most of what passes for news in the US (MSNBC, Fox, CNN, etc). Even NPR steps into that but to a much lesser degree. Though as the Whistleblower noted, the Editorial staff is 100% Democrat (which I take it he himself leaned).

    Does anyone have an opinion on 1440? It is supposed to be simply news.
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    It's not that they're Democrats. It's that they've abandoned journalism for advocacy.

    Stick to AP and Reuters when you can.
     
  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    For live news on MSNBC, Fox, CNN, etc. there is much truth to your statement that opinion plays a large part. The national news on ABC, NBC, and CBS is more reliable and less biased. For printed news with editors it's much better. In printed news, opinion pieces are marked differently (or should be) and edited differently.

    MBFC rates USA Today as slightly left biased. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/usa-today-2/ I really like Steve's suggestion to stick to AP and Reuters for best straight down the line reporting. If you want something that leans a little to the right, I like to recommend the Wall Street Journal. Their editorials can sometimes go a bit too far to the right but their straight reporting is good and reliable. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/wall-street-journal/
     
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  7. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    True. The AP, Reuters, and the Wall Street Journal are generally good. I agree with the characterization of the Wall Street Journal as straight reporting. That has been my impression in reading some stories (surprising impression).

    I've almost got the impression at times that younger media reporters of various types believe that their opinions are reporting the news. Sometimes that has been strange and unwelcome.
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Yeah, I think most people think about their opinion pieces when they think WSJ, and those are clearly on the right, but they have a high organizational wall between news and opinion.
     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    As we've previously discussed, the MBFC rating for the WSJ heavily factors in the editorial side of the wall. So if one one doesn't dabble much in the editorials the WSJ is much better than their MBFC rating would seem to indicate.
     
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  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Opinion shared with the readers.
    Readers can agree, agree partially, disagree partially, disagree.

    I think I agree with most of the article. I think the contrast with blue states is visible.
    While each state deals with it own challenges, didn't CA just added another 7 billion to the deficit projections?
    The Legislative Analyst’s Office projects the 2024-25 shortfall at $73 billion, putting more pressure on legislators and the governor to find savings.
    Only a little over a year ago Newsom bragged of having a $97.5 billion surplus to expand health care, social equity and educational programs.
    A year after his surplus boasting they forecasted 32 billion deficit now its almost 80 bil.
    Obviously Newsom and his budget advisors made a huge mistake in assuming that a brief surge in taxes would continue to grow.

    What a contrast between CA and FL.
     
  11. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  13. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    DeSantis has one of the highest disapproval ratings for governors: poll
    quote:
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has one of the highest disapproval ratings among U.S. governors, a national survey from Morning Consult found.

    The Florida Republican’s 44% disapproval rating ties him for third place, coming in just short of Oregon Democrat Tina Kotek (45%) and Iowa Republican Kim Reynolds (47%), who endorsed DeSantis for president during the GOP primaries.
    https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/desantis-has-one-of-the-highest-disapproval-ratings-for-governors-poll/


    A lot of people in Florida don't like him. It doesn't mean he won't be reelected since he does have okay approval numbers. It really means that relatively few Floridians don't have an opinion.
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Church Lady here: Well, isn't that special? A hagiography designed for a specific religion: Could it be ...... DeSatanism? :)
     
  15. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Ron DeSantis is term-limited. He can’t run in the next (2026) Florida gubernatorial election because he will have served the preceding two terms. He could try to get the state constitution changed to allow a third term, but he’d have to call in lots of favors and run the risk of losing face. Casey DeSantis, his wife, has been mooted as a potential candidate to succeed him.
     
  16. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    ...also known as "to pull a Putin". That'd be in character.
    What I like the most about Florida is probably the most Socialist thing about it: the education system. Public schools are reasonably well-run, while public University and State College systems are funded well enough to feature in-state tuition rates that are among the lowest in the nation. Plus the generous Bright Futures scholarship program for high-performing students (so far I believe my girls will be able to qualify for it). Well, (Meatball) Ronnie the Culture Warrior undermines all of these things. Hot to mention the bizarre book banning episodes, demonizing of immigrants (someone tell me why Lerner is attracted to these guys) and the whole reproductive freedom thing. Also, environment, affordability, and the property insurance mess. DeSatanis is term-limited, and good riddance.
     
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  17. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Lerner would be the best person to address this. I assume he didn't read it and so I'll hopefully bring it to his attention here.
     
  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    What a distortion, but each person reads and see something their way.
    I support conservative candidates, and conservative values. Not radicals from any side of the spectrum.
    Ideally I look in a statesman/stateswoman for honest and able leadership and for transcendent moral order, support of social continuity, prescription -“The wisdom of our ancestors”.
    Statesman/woman for whom prudence is chief among virtues.
    And adherence to basic Biblical values, such as the 10 commandments and love thy neighbor as thy self.
    Pro-life, pro traditional family, pro humane approach to issues and society, immigrants.
    Someone who wants to keep our communities safe and our sovereignty unquestioned, our military at it best. etc., etc., etc.
     
  19. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    And that's Ron DeSantis, a lab grown Trump substitute? Seriously?

    I would say Biden resembles what you wrote much more closely - I don't see you posting bootlegging screeds about him, now do you?
     
  20. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Book banning is a real thing in Florida. Demonizing immigrants is also a thing maybe a bit over stated but there are some articles about immigrants being threatened by recent Florida laws that have made it hard to find workers for certain jobs in Florida because the laws have made it dangerous for immigrants to be in Florida. If you need links to some articles on either of these things let me know and I'll Google some up for you.
     

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