Enrollments Plunge at Many For-Profit Colleges

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by imalcolm, Aug 17, 2011.

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  1. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    According to Capella's annual report, they had 11,619 doctoral students at the end of 2011, down 3.6 % from the 12,058 that they had at the end of 2010. As noted previously, UoP's doctoral enrollments are also down by about the same percentage. Capella actually has more doctoral students, though UoP is much larger overall.

    So doctoral enrollments are down at both schools, but not by very much, only about 3 or 4 %. The economic downturn doesn't seem to be discouraging people from pursuing doctorates.
     
  2. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    We actually do have a couple of our adjunct faculty in the program. Alas, they are not attending for free. :-(
     
  3. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    RATS! So close yet so far...
     
  4. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    The recession continues for UoP. Enrollments fell for the eighth consecutive quarter.
    UoP's fiscal year starts in September, so 3Q 2012 = March to May 2012.

    476,500 3Q 2010
    470,800 4Q 2010
    438,100 1Q 2011
    405,300 2Q 2011
    398,400 3Q 2011
    380,800 4Q 2011
    373,100 1Q 2012
    355,800 2Q 2012
    346,300 3Q 2012
     
  5. Petedude

    Petedude New Member

    Beginning of the end for UoP?
     
  6. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    I don't expect the number to drop to zero. It will presumably stabilize at some point, and then start rising again.

    But I'm curious to see when that will happen. My guess is that it will keep dropping for at least one more quarter (Apollo's 4Q 2012, which covers the summer months). Maybe it will bottom out then, and pick up in the fall (Apollo's 1Q 2013, starting in September).
     
  7. edwardlynch

    edwardlynch New Member

    This is very interesting.
     
  8. dwilson1979

    dwilson1979 New Member

    I wouldn't say APUS is doing anything different than UOP or any of the other for-profit schools. The only reason APUS continues to do well is because the all the senior military members push AMU. Everyone in the military is taught a degree is a degree no matter where it comes from and TA covers books and classes for a miltary member.
     
  9. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Well, they're charging much much less (than Phoenix, and many, probably most other for-profits).
     
  10. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    A few other factors are in play:

    APUS also is significantly cheaper than UOP.

    For undergraduate students:

    UOP online is $570 per credit hour plus $95 per course in online books/materials. That's $1805 per course.

    APUS is $250 per credit hour, with books included. That's $750 per course.


    For master's level students:

    UOP online is $715 per credit hour, plus a $115 per course materials fee. That's $2260 per course.

    APUS is $325 per credit hour, but you must buy the books separately. That's $975 per course, plus books.

    When you compare the two and consider UOP's reputation, UOP is obscenely expensive.
     
  11. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    Still falling at UoP

    Time for another UoP quarterly update. Enrollments fell for the ninth consecutive quarter.
    UoP 's fiscal year starts in September, so 4Q 2012 = June to August 2012.

    476,500 3Q 2010
    470,800 4Q 2010
    438,100 1Q 2011
    405,300 2Q 2011
    398,400 3Q 2011
    380,800 4Q 2011
    373,100 1Q 2012
    355,800 2Q 2012
    346,300 3Q 2012
    328,400 4Q 2012

    UoP's enrollment has fallen by more than 30% since the peak in 2010. They have lost nearly 150,000 students since then.

    The numbers should stabilize at some point, but apparently not yet.
     

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