Ed.D Length

Discussion in 'Education, Teaching and related degrees' started by chasey11442, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. chasey11442

    chasey11442 New Member

    How long does an Ed.D usually take including the dissertation?
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    It varies a lot, but four years is probably the norm and one can sometimes fine programs where it can be done in three. If you have $150,000 burning a hole in your pocket and are willing to go to Philadelphia monthly for two years, you can even do one that fast through the University of Pennsylvania (if they admit you).
  3. mbutch

    mbutch New Member

    Capstone Project

    I am interested in an EdD also. However, I have read where Doctor of Education degrees are transitioning from dissertations to capstone projects. Does anyone know of a school that offers this type of program?
  4. TESOLer12

    TESOLer12 New Member

    Morehead State University in Kentucky had an EdD with a capstone. It has several options to choose from and is available online.
  5. Gabe F.

    Gabe F. Member

  6. mbutch

    mbutch New Member


    Thank you for your suggestions. It appears from their website that American College of Education has the option of a dissertation or a capstone project for their EdD. Does anyone know or have experience with their program? Thanks.
  7. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    Ed.D. programs used to be, by and large, indistinguishable from Ph.D. programs in education--including the dissertation requirement. However, with the Dept. of Education changing its classification of doctoral degrees, there is a lot more flexibility among doctoral programs and we are seeing more with capstone projects that have varying amounts of research requirements.

    I have experience with both the faculty and with recent graduates of Morehead State University's Ed.D. program. The people who developed the program are excellent. The program has been successful and the grads are doing well and really felt good about their work in the program.
  8. MattS

    MattS New Member

    I am currently in the dissertation process with ACE. There is no capstone option for the Ed.D., but there is a capstone for the Ed.S. The two degrees are commonly lumped together in the school's literature since the curriculum is largely the same for the first couple years.
  9. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    DOE Classification of Doctoral Degrees?

    When did the DOE change the dissertation classification rules and what are the changes and where can they be read?
  10. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    The DOE changed the classification of doctoral degrees into three categories: 1) Doctor’s Degree-Professional Practice; 2) Doctor’s Degree-Research/Scholarship and 3) Doctor’s Degree-Other. If you would like to read more about it, this link will take you to one of our journal articles based on research by my colleagues and me into the DBA degree versus the PhD in management. It is in the section titled, "U.S. Department of Education Changes Classifications." We answer your questions there.

    The D.B.A. vs. Ph.D. in U.S. Business and Management Programs: Different by Degrees? | Pina | Journal for Excellence in Business Education
  11. mbutch

    mbutch New Member

    American College of Education

    Thanks for the information about ACE. Is there a way that I could contact you and get some advice about the school. Thanks.
  12. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Thanks. Just read it in PDF form here:

    The DOE should be abolished. The DOE egregiously muddied the waters on this issue, due to sheer incompetence. Hopefully President Trump will abolish the DOE to allow the regional accreditators to do their job more efficiently than the DOE could ever dream of doing. DOE monies could be better spent on reducing the deficit or helping Americans -- instead of muddying the issue on the equivalency (or lack thereof) of various doctoral degrees e.g. PhD, DBA, EdD, et al.
  13. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    The DOE used to make an unambiguous statement about the equivalency of the PhD, DBA and EdD in its Structure of US Education. The latest classifications basically make the doctorate a free-for-all.
  14. MattS

    MattS New Member

    Sure...feel free to send me a private message. Or, if you think the information may be useful to others, I can answer here too.
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    1. DOE is the Department of Energy. The Department of Education is ED.

    2. Your messiah can't abolish ED, that's a Congressional prerogative.

    3. To free up accreditors, you don't have to abolish ED, just NACIQI. (Although I happen to agree with you on killing ED.)
  16. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    ED = Education Dysfunction?
  17. Marylars

    Marylars New Member

    There was someone a while back who was going to apply to this program, but I cannot find the thread in my searching tonight. Do any of you have experience with Nebraska Methodist? Thanks in advance for your help!
  18. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Hahaha!! Good point Steve!
  19. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    The average Ed.D. is designed to be completed in 3 years. Of course, the dissertation or capstone research project duration will vary from one student to the other.

    Have you looked at Trevecca Nazarene University's Ed.D. in Leadership & Practice? It's designed to be completed in 27 months and you work on your dissertation concurrently with the coursework.

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