East Carolina Doctoral Student with St Regis B.S.!

If she did "slip through the cracks", what would they do with her. Would she be asked to leave the program?

 

An honorable gesture would be for her to work on her MSc and PhD simultaneously. This way she wouldn't lose face when ECU finds out her degree was earned from a cash n' carry outfit.

 

Yeah, cuz heads might roll.

 

Tireman: "If she did "slip through the cracks", what would they do with her. Would she be asked to leave the program?"

John: It will be interesting to watch, indeed. The situation could be comparable to the one about my wife wrote her ethical analysis of buying degrees (which is available at www.degree.net). In that situation, where a principal bought a fake degree, but was doing a good job, Marina's advice included the recommendation that the woman in question be given two years to earn the real Master's that was a requirement of the job.

During the time I had involvement with the distance Master's degrees of the University of Leicester, while a Bachelor's was required, there was also an option for well qualified applicants without a Bachelor's. They were offered the opportunity to undertake an 8-month Diploma program, to show both that they had knowledge in the field and were capable of doing the necessary research and writing. Something like that could work at ECU as well.

Without ketchup. That is how I will eat my hat if ECU looks at the St. Regis situation and states officially that it is their policy to accept the degrees of St. Regis in the same way they accept the degrees of a regionally or nationally accredited U.S. school.

 

The Lady Vanishes

The "Doctoral Students" page at http://www.ecu.edu/microbiology/students.htm no longer lists Samantha G. Harvey, the graduate student who had acquired a Saint Regis bachelor's degree before arriving at ECU.

At the moment Ms. Franklin is still listed in Professor Franklin's web page which shows his staff roster.

G

 

Re: The Lady Vanishes

It seems like ECU is taking swift action in this matter. Ms. Franklin is no longer still listed in Professor Franklin's web page which showing his staff roster.

 

I wonder how this denouement was brought about--a sudden epiphany on the part of ECU, somebody at ECU reading this forum, or what?

 

Ok,

who emailed the school? I tend to believe this epiphany was prompted.

 

Or they were recently flooded with applications from pigeons with AA and BA degrees from SRU who want to do their graduate work at ECU.

 

bird brains

We don't know that pigeons are eligible for Saint Regis BA degrees.

G

 

If an oxpecker can get a Stanford doctorate, a pigeon can get a St. Regis BA,

 

No longer a student

Now she is no longer listed on the student page. I wouldn't want to be her right now. So sad.

 

Re: No longer a student

If ECU found out that her SRU degree was from a cash n' carry school, she would most likely be asked to withdraw from the program.
(unless she returned to SRU to fast track her doctorate )

 

From Boris at CollegeHints

"I was able to talk with Dr. Marty at ECU.

Samantha G. Harvey is still a student with them, she was removed from web
page only and he wasn't sure if she is on any type of probation.

I will follow up with him next week.

My wife’s 2 cousins graduated from ECU.

One of them is practicing Medicine in CA.

Another I'm not sure."



I don't know.

 

Re: No longer a student

JoAnnP38 writes:

> Now she is no longer listed on the student page. I wouldn't
> want to be her right now. So sad.

Yes, I do feel some pangs of conscience for being the one who outed her. But several people do Google searches for Saint Regis University, and I don't think we could have kept it quiet until she got her Ph.D.

 

LOL Thanks Dennis, I really enjoyed that one.

 

Re: Re: No longer a student

Hey, you probably did her a favor. This is better than her going to school for 5 or 6 years and then having it brought to light. I'm sure it will save her and the school embarassment later on.

 

Re: No longer a student

How about the feelings of those prospective students who hold RA degrees but were not accepted into the ECU program because someone with a SRU degree had a slightly better admission statement and GPA. Where do you draw the line??

 

Re: Re: No longer a student

While I can understand having empathy for what she must be going through, would you really want to be a co-conspirator in keep her "secret"? How would you justify that to people who put in hard work to earn a legitimate BA, but were denied admissions because of her? I think the only person responsible here is the person trying to cheat the system.

 

DaveHayden wrote:

> While I can understand having empathy for what she must
> be going through, would you really want to be a co-conspirator
> in keep her "secret"?

You'll see that I've just outed a second person (professor with a Glencullen degree), so that's some indicaction of what I "really want". But I'm sure zillions of people every day run Google searches and do nothing with the info they turn up. Are they all "co-conspirators"?

> How would you justify that to people who put in hard work
> to earn a legitimate BA,

I don't connect not having a Bachelor's degree with laziness. It's more likely to correlate with having been born into the wrong family.

> but were denied admissions because of her?

Gus tells us she was admitted in January. Competitive admissions are mostly in September. I'd guess this was a space available, and she wasn't competing with anyone.

> I think the only person responsible here is the person trying
> to cheat the system.

The system is silly sometimes. If she was capable of doing doctoral-level work, she may have been helping the world do immunology research, and harming no one. Or, is she a total fraud who would have faked the results of her experiments? That's possible too; I don't know anything about her. But I think that some SRU alumni may have sincerely worked for their degrees, not knowing how low the minimal standards are.

I'm not denying her responsibility. We're all responsible for our actions.