Drone shooting

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by nosborne48, Jun 20, 2019.

  1. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Well. Was the drone in Iranian air space or international air space? Apparently the answer depends on whether you accept the Iranian claims to some minor islands. The so-called international community, I gather, does not recognize the Iranian claim. Whatever we do now will be watched closely in Beijing.

    Meanwhile Jimmy Carter, who failed utterly (and infuriatingly) to respond to a much greater provocation at a much more auspicious time, is still clinging to life. I wonder whether he is second guessing his decisions from that time? Somehow I don't think so.
  2. FTFaculty

    FTFaculty Well-Known Member

    Being Jimmy Carter means never having to second guess a thing you have done, at least publicly, while coming out occasionally to very publicly scold those who do take strong stands against tyrants. Being Jimmy Carter apparently means living in a world of self-imposed delusion, like Lance Easley, the football ref who made the horrific Fail Mary call, got run out of reffing, and yet still insists in his sad exile that he made the right call.
  3. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    Canada and the USA have a lot of undeveloped oil and natural gas to be self sufficient and to export. Canada needs pipelines. Not a single American life should be loss defending movement of oil in the gulf and strait of hermoz. We should develop our resources until there is new alternative energy. Eastern Canada import oil from the gulf whilst at the same time western Canada has a glut of oil because there are no pipelines to get it to market. Stupid!
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2019
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    What's certain is that the drone was 7200 miles outside U.S. airspace. Phdtobe is right: Americans have nothing to gain from U.S. involvement in the age old conflict between Persia and Arabia.

    I expect they closely watch all U.S. policy decisions.
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  5. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    The United States DOES have a vital national interest in assuring freedom of navigation in international waters. That's why we are continuing to run ships through the South China Sea regularly in the face of Chinese threats.
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The primary threat to freedom of navigation in the Persian Gulf is the U.S. and its Gulf of Tonkin-style tactics.
  7. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    The World DOES have a vital national interest in assuring freedom of navigation in international waters.
    It should be the World’s responsible to see that international waters are free from impediments.
    When it comes to oil in the Middle East, my opinion is doesn’t worth the life of a single American military person to defend.
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