Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by aimymalik, Jun 23, 2015.

  1. aimymalik

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    Dear All.

    I would like to know your expert opinion.

    I am interested in 1 year online MSc or MBA in Supply Chain or Logistics, So far I have following options. My Budget is under $10k

    University of Salford - UK
    Cost around 12000$

    Australian Institute of Business - Australia
    Cost around 9000$

    William Loveland College USA (Accredited by DAEC)
    COST around 4000-5000$

    My basic degree is Doctor of Pharmacy from Pakistan and I have 5 years of supply chain experience currently I am in Africa working with UN. I have plan to move NY in June 2016. My goal is to get degree that will help me to get job relevant to my experience.

    I have already completed advance diploma in logistics and transport from CILT-UK.

    What is the worth of degree from DAEC accredited Institute?
    Doest it effect if Institute is in IAU-WHED ?
    What if I go for William Loveland MBA and combine it with CSCP from APICS?

  2. Neuhaus

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    There are people working in the U.S. who have degrees from foreign institutions only. They have no U.S. based credentials at all.

    None of the schools you've listed are likely to strike a chord of familiarity with any U.S. employer. There are exceptions, of course. I work in Human Resources. I am familiar (though really only with the name) of the University of Salford. I don't have strong feelings about it either way. I had to search for the other two just because I'm not familiar at all with them.

    The worth of any degree is really going to be whether an employer hires you. If you are immediately picked up by a firm in NYC then you're good to go. That might happen even without an MBA. And once you have a U.S. based firm on your resume it would be easier to leap to another and another and as many as you like for the remainder of your career.

    Your biggest obstacle is likely to be obtaining sponsorship. If a company is going to sponsor you for a visa then you really need to impress them a bit more than the typical applicant. It's doubtful that your skills are so overwhelmingly amazing that they couldn't find someone already in New York. Companies, generally speaking, only go this route when a foreign employee can offer something that a local employee simply cannot. That could be a limited skill or a common skill at a lower wage. I have a few recommendations but none of them relate to earning an MBA.

    1) Use your UN connection to make your way to New York. Funny thing, if you drive through the east side of Manhattan you eventually hit a big old United Nations complex. If you google around you even find the UN job board. The UN is more likely to be receptive to foreign education. The fact that you currently work with a UN programme is good. I don't know how much that would impress the U.N. But my instinct is that it would have the bigger impact with the UN than with your average private employer. This would get you in New York. From there, you can network your way into a private company. Working for the UN in New York is likely to be more impactful on private employers than UN work elsewhere in the world. We're kind of US-centric in this country. That's not really a good thing but it's a thing you should be aware of.

    2) Try to work for an international company with a U.S. presence - Less preferable. It's not always easy to make this leap. My company has an office in Sweden. I'd love to go to Sweden. But I've never been lucky enough to land a trip to the land of massage, meatballs and Ikea, let alone a permanent posting. We have at least a dozen people who would love to go work in Japan for a year or two but there are few spots available. Still, if you went to work for UPS-Asia then, theoretically at least, applying to UPS-US should be a bit easier.

    3) Just start applying for jobs - Just start applying. Don't wait to earn an MBA. Don't spend all of your time dreaming of your next degree. Find postings and apply. If you begin to notice a trend in terms of requirements then consider obtaining that new credential (it might be a masters or a certification). But start testing the waters early.

    4) Focus on firms that deal with either Pakistan or Africa - This may seem obvious. But your experience, while interesting, might not impress a firm that principally deals with South America. If I had a company doing work in Africa or Pakistan you'd look mighty interesting, however. Bonus points if you can work in your pharmacy degree (i.e. working as a logistics professional for a pharmaceutical company). It may not be required. It may not even actually help you with your primary job. But in certain settings it can be a nice boost because it shows you understand the broader business. For example, our company's former Environmental Health and Safety Manager had a B.Eng. in Electrical Engineering. You don't need an engineering degree to do the EHS Manager job. But, you do work with a lot of engineers and around a lot of heavy equipment. So being able to "speak the language" was deemed helpful.

    Can you get a job with a DEAC degree? Of course. And many have. But DEAC schools are unlikely to evoke warm fuzzy feelings in the minds of employers. Not because they are "bad" but because they are largely unknown. Right now people are rather pissy toward for-profit schools. So William Loveland (a non-profit) might position you better than a degree from the University of Phoenix even though the latter has "better" accreditation. No DEAC degree is going to impress an employer the way a degree from an elite school would. Then again, at $4,500 you're getting an MBA for probably the cost of books at an Ivy or elite MBA program.

    In terms of CSCP, I can't imagine it would hurt. But I would look at how many job postings realistically prefer the certification for the specific type of work you hope to be doing. I interviewed at a company once where the HR Director was outwardly aggressive toward the PHR/SPHR designations. She hated them. She felt they were "ruining" the HR profession. And she made it clear to me that if I was hired I would receive zero company support in maintaining my certification. I didn't pursue that job further. Her hatred toward the designation was atypical and letting my PHR lapse would hurt me in the longrun. But that isn't the case with all private certifications. Some can be helpful. Others make no difference. Look at job postings to see if it's a requirement (or a preferred qualification). Look at the LinkedIn profiles of people with job titles that interest you (and the positions above those people) to see if they have it. If it's standard then do it. Maybe even before you get the MBA.
  3. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

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    Colorado, USA
    In my experience your non-academic qualifications are usually critical to landing a job in the USA.

    Also I consider Salford to be a good school and their degree would be far superior to a DAEC degree.
  4. aimymalik

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    Dear Neuhas,

    Thank you so much for sparing time to guide me.

    In fact your post will help me deciding my career in US. I have already applied for immigration. and I ll be there around June 2016. InshaALLAH.

    I have found some other options for online MBA.

    1. Uni of salford from UK (CIPS accreditation for MSc program) 13000
    2. AACSB accredited degree 9-10000
    3. Regionally and ACBSP accredited degree 7-9000
    4. ACBSP and CHEA accredited European institute degree 5000-6000

    I am still evaluating wich one to go for.
  5. Steve Levicoff

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    Somewhere in a Truck
    Two other programs to check out:

    1) The master's program in Logistics from the American Military University. Regionally accredited, which is the most important type of accreditation in the U.S.

    2) The "Global Logistics Specialist" certification from the California State University at Long Beach. It's not a degree, but since you already have a graduate degree it might fit the bill. It's a certification that only comes from CSULB, but it's popular credential out there because Long Beach has one of the busiest cargo seaports in the U.S. Frankly, I don't think of the program very highly, but a lot of people in the industry do.

    Here's a hidden gem: The 20 Best Online Master in Supply Chain Management Degree Programs | The Best Schools - a list of 20 online programs in logistics and/or supply chain management. The rankings are subjective, but it's a good resource list.
  6. major56

    major56 Active Member

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    Some additional programs you may also want to consider:

    University of Southern Mississippi: M.S. in Logistics, Trade and Transportation-Online (30 total credit hours: $10K)
    Southern Mississippi Master's Degree | Logistics, Trade and Transportation | The University of Southern Mississippi

    Georgia College: Master of Logistics and Supply Chain Management (30-hour program: $10.3K)
    Master of Logistics and Supply Chain Management (MLSCM) | Graduate Programs | College of Business | Georgia College

    North Dakota State University: Master of Managerial Logistics (35-hour program: $12.25K)

    Ohio State University-Fisher (AASCB): Master of Business Logistics Engineering (MBLE: 41-credit-hour program)
    Fisher College of Business | Master of Business Logistics Engineering

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