Discrimination (lower cost) vs Non-discrimination (higher cost)?

I didn't think deists were really into relationships with God, do they believe a God who actively intervenes in human affairs and is one with whom one can have a relationship exists?

In any event, I do believe you're right that not everyone who says they want a relationship with God is all that interested in Jesus or what any of his followers have to say. As for homosexual marriage, I personally don't give a rip about marriage one way or the other, that's a public policy issue and seems outside the realm of anything Jesus or his followers taught. If Jesus were all that concerned about government policy (rather than the hearts of those who purport to follow him), I'd think he might have said a thing or two about good governance and public policy issues.

As it stands, I can't find a thing in the Christian scriptures addressing those points except the admonition Jesus gave to pay your taxes and that a follower of his by name of Paul gave to not be scofflaws. Can anyone here find anything else that was addressed to public policy and not the lives of his followers, whom he told to take the beam out their own eyes first?

 

Everyone has a right to their opinion and I have a right not to listen to it.

 

I was admitted to and registered at ACU and GCU in 2016. I wasn't required to submit a faith statement as was the case with Southeastern (who only admits those professing to be Christians). My post was never about whether schools embrace same sex marriages or not. It was about discrimination based on sexual orientation. According to GCU's policy change in 2015 which was announced in a lengthy letter from the president, they DO NOT discriminate against students on the basis of sexual orientation. Neither will they deny same sex married couples employee benefits. ACU's non-discriminatory policy as at the printing of my online handbook in 2016, stated that they DO NOT discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation.

 

I am confused about your timeline.

Are you saying that you were admitted and registered at ACU and GCU in 2016 for your "Ed.D. in Organizational Leadership" or for a different degree?

 

Yes, I was registered at both. I declined GCU's offer and cancelled my registration. GCU was Ed.D. in Organizational Leadership (Organizational Development emphasis). I bought the books for ACU and completed Week 0 (Orientation). I withdrew the day before class started. ACU was Ed.D. in Organizational Leadership (Conflict Resolution track). Then in October 2016, I enrolled at ACE for the Ed.D. in Leadership (Educational & Community Organizations focus of study). I completed the first course and earned 1 credit I then withdrew.. So yes, I've been all over the place.. Now I'm just focused on my M.Sc. program.

 

I am now even more confused.

If I understand correctly, you have already made all your decisions prior to starting this thread.

So, what did you want confirmation or insight in?

 

That’s one of the best, most concise statements I’ve seen on this forum in a long time.

When I left the wacky world of academe to become a cross-country trucker, I attained a principle early on: never to discuss with truckers (or ayone in this industry) five subjects – politics, race, religion, sex, and sports. It has never failed me.

Which brings to mind yet another fond memory . . .

Several years ago, I served on the committee of a doctoral learner at Union who was going for (and eventually received) his Ph.D. in American Studies. His focus was in church-state issues, which was close to my field, so I took him on as a doctoral learner. The guy was a country bumpkin to the core, who was also on faculty at Southeastern in Lakeland, which is an Assemblies of God college. (Think Fundies + tongues.)

As much as he was a shit kicker, he decided to hold the pre-graduation meeting of his doctoral committee in New York City, at the library of the Algonquin Hotel (where all of the literary crowd gathered in the 1950’s to pontificate). During a lunch of New York strip steaks, his committee members looked at each other and knew with our eyes, “Yeah, this guy is gonna pass.” Our country bumpkin pulled off a total class act worthy of a Ph.D. It was also the last time I was in NYC, a city that, despite my being a total theatre geek, I do not love.

Hmmmmmmm . . . I’d caution you about UNISA. It’s a fine school, but I see red flags when I see Americans getting a degree from UNISA. Unless, of course, you’re actually planning to visit South Africa during your studentship.

I have always advocated the notion of some degree of residency for all doctoral degrees. The doctoral title indicates that you are, or are planning to become, a leader in your field. And that should include a period of accountability to your faculty and peers so you don’t go off half-cocked and blow it. When I did my Ph.D., my doctoral committee members (which, in those days at Union, consisted of two cores, two adjuncts, and two peers or graduates) were my control point in terms of keeping on track with my goals and pursuing a quality program.

If you ultimately say that you received your doctorate at UNISA (or any other non-USA school), there are many people who will wonder why, or how, you pulled it off. It will, in their minds, lack credibility. Ultimately, you are better off with no doctorate than with the wrong doctorate.

A childhood dream? What kind of gay dude are you? In childhood, you should have been thinking about hanging out with Dorothy somewhere over the rainbow, not getting a doctorate. But seriously, it’s a noble goal, but assuming you’re 25 years old at this time, there’s no rush. (I earned my Ph.D. at 37, which is still younger than a lot of people.) Take some time to smell the coffee.

I have no recommendations, since Leadership programs are a dime a dozen these days. But a word of caution: three of the five programs thaht have accepted you are proprietary (profit-making) schools. There has been a lot of negative publicity regarding profit-making so-called universities these days, and there are sufficient non-profit schools around that you should have to give serious consideration to the money-grubbers. Granted, credibility is often just a matter of perception, but people’s perception will influence their hiring decisions when it comes to teaching positions.

I wish I could remember what this is from, ‘cause it’s a great line: Let’s hope that when your head stops spinning around, your eyes are once again facing forward. (Take that with the humor with which it’s intended.)

Your current program (the M.Sc. in C.J.) is the key program when it comes to both a future teaching role and the goal of heading up a campus police force. That’s the program that’s giving you primary source knowledge in your field. A doctoral program in leadership is the potential icing on the cake, but it’s not the cake itself. Like I said earlier, don’t be in a rush. You’ve been through enough doctoral programs to have a taste of what they’re about; take your time and make the decision on your next one carefully enough that it will be the last one on which you have to decide.

Finally, remember that most colleges (when looking for teachers) and sworn police forces (campus or civil) give preference to current or former police officers. I’m thinking of the recent dialogue on this forum between Bruce Tait (one of our moderators and a municipal cop) and San Antone (well credentialed and a corrections professional, but not a cop). There’s a “one of us” mentality in law enforcement that is not entirely unjustified, so consider your overall experience in terms of future positions in regard to the competition which you might be up against.

 

I agree with you on this. I did a few searches on UNISA on this forum and I had a change of interest. I also see a lot of complaints on their Facebook posts. Students are always complaining about being unable to get support via call or email. I definitely don't want to be on an isolated journey.

I guess because my dream was to become a medical doctor then as I grew older I realized I wasn't smart enough ...at science at least. I decided that I still had to achieve that "Dr." title. My brother gave me a similar advice this week about focusing all my time acquiring degrees and not having any fun. So yes, I will "smell the coffee" though I prefer hot chocolate haha I'll put the doctoral pursuit on the back burner for now and focus on my CJ degree.

I am very aware of the stigma attached to for-profit schools and that's why I was happy to find Southeastern which was non-profit and reasonably priced. Well... the search continues since I am no longer in a rush to pursue a doctorate.

I have a total change in career goals now. I left law enforcement yesterday for good. I don't know what my next career path will be since I've been in law enforcement since I was 18 years old. I am now trying to see where I will fit in with an bachelor's degree in criminal justice (NA) and an MBA with no business experience. Although my MBA has been evaluated to a regionally accredited U.S. MBA, I will have to compete with MBA's that are AACSB accredited or even ACBSP and IACBE. I still however, want to work in the criminal justice field, just not law enforcement.

 

Do you have technical expertise, as in cyber, digital forensics, I/CI, IR, etc.?

Would you be willing to relocate to Metro DC/Baltimore area?

Willing to be 50%+ deployed to O & CONUS, including sandpit?

If so, PM me your contact and I might have something for you.

 

I hadn't decided what I was going to do until I got some insights from different members on this forum. The deciding response that weighed on my mind was this one:

 

Thank you for considering me. I am always intrigued by digital forensics and cyber crime. However, I have no experience in those area. In addition, I wouldn't want to travel overseas.

Best regards

 

This list is discriminatory. How many islamic schools made the list? That's right none.....seems legit.

 

I found four Islamic institutions of higher learning in the U.S. namely; Cordoba University, Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America, Islamic American University and Zaytuna College. Of the four, only Zaytuna College is accredited (WASC Senior Commission; granted 03/04/2015). They are the first and only accredited Islamic university in the United States. While I was unable to find a Title IX or non-discriminatory policy on their website, I found a policy on freedom of expression.

POLICY ON FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION

Zaytuna College values freedom of thought and expression among its faculty, staff and students. People affiliated with the college can be expected to articulate and publicly express a wide array of opinions on various issues, including on subjects that tend to generate heated public discourse. These, however, are their personal views and do not in any way reflect the official policies or positions of Zaytuna College, which, as an institution of higher learning, does not take a stance on political matters.

Judging from their freedom of expression policy, they don't seem to discriminate to me.

 

Try searching for the college name and "gay" or "homosexual".

I have a policy on my website stating that I am the Pope, President, and immortal.

 

Hahahahaha...that's funny. We got ourselves a comedian here.

 

So the director of Southeastern's online admission reached out to me and asked why I was declining the admissions offer. I told her that SEU's principles and my principles don't coincide. If only they didn't discriminate against people like me, I'd be starting the Ed.D. in July... Their program is pretty affordable but I guess I'll keep searching.