Confused about Trinity

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by bing, Nov 6, 2005.

  1. bing

    bing New Member

    Is Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, , a legit school? It looks like they have many divisions at Trinity. Some say they are HLC accredited and other divisions don't say that. Is the divinity school above appropriately accredited?

    It looks like they all also have a law school but that appears to be a California law program setup in Illinois.

    There are some many schools named Trinity that I am not quite sure what is up with Trinity/Trinities. They are often mentioned as mills.
  2. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    As are a great many theology and divinity students, everywhere... I assure you. ;)

    Trinity Evangelical Divinity School is ATS accredited; and is a part of Trinity International University, which is regionally accredited. It is, therefore, "a legit school," to use your phrase.

    The school at the URL you provided is accredited as I have described.

    The Santa Ana, CA campus of TIU is, indeed, accredited by the California Committee of Bar Examiners to grant a residential (non-distance-learning) three- or four-year California bar-exam-eligible Juris Doctor (JD) degree. I haven't looked closely enough to figure out if the actual classes are in California alone, or in both California and in Illinois. But if it's the latter, I suppose it's possible that TIU could get away with teaching the same courses in Illinois under the umbrella of the California campus, but the students would only be eligible to fly out to California and take that state's bar exam when they're finished. Given Trinity's high quality and multi-accredited status, it would not surprise me a bit if the California Committee of Bar Examiners permitted TIU to do so. If you think about it, it's a distance learning JD in the sense that it's outside California, but it's residential in the sense that there are real classes in a real classroom, just like any residential California Committee of Bar Examiners accredited law school... and the California Committee of Bar Examiners approves both (distance learning and residential) kinds of Juris Doctor programs.

    Were I running Trinity, that's exactly how I'd play it. I'd have a residential law school -- even if only CalBar accredited -- in both states and get a raft of experience granting JDs for a while (even if, for said while, they could only take the California bar exam); and the whole time I'd build-up my law library and do all the other things that I'd need to do to eventually get ABA approved... and then, when the time's right, I'd apply for that very thing so that I could start graduating JDs who could take the bar in all 50 states.

    Well... by the name, alone, we know there are at least three.

    [pause while it sinks in]

    Okay... that was a really stupid joke. Sorry.

    Many of the Trinities are mills. Several are not. The one about which you've inquired isn't. Nor is this one, which is slated to receive its regional accreditation around August of 2006. There are many others that are accredited and legit. To see them, point your web browser at the CHEA database, then click on the button that says you agree to the terms; then, on the next page, type "trinity" into the "Institution Name" field, leave all other fields untouched, and then click on the "Search for Institution" button. You'll get a list of 18 (as of this writing) legit, accredited Trinities...

    ...which, if you think about it, is really only six trinities... but again I make with the bad jokes. ;)
  3. mattchand

    mattchand Member

    I laughed aloud after this one. Guess I like stupid jokes.:)

    Regarding Trinity Evalgelical Divinity School, though, it's worth noting that it's regarded as one of the best and most prestigious Evangelical seminaries in the US, with several well-known scholars teaching there or having taught there in the past (e.g., anthropologist Paul Hiebert, David Hesselgrave, etc.)


  4. lchemist

    lchemist New Member

    But the three are one. :D
  5. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    quicunque vult...

    Not in this case. TEDS is first-rate academically. Matt got it right.
    TTS Newburgh requires substantial work but... (search this site)
  6. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Re: quicunque vult...

    After this morning's tornados in that neck of the woods, someone should check and make sure TTS Newburgh is even still there. Who knows... it might now all be moot.
  7. boydston

    boydston New Member

    Not only are they legit but they have a very good reputation, as well.
  8. Rich Hartel

    Rich Hartel New Member

    Re: quicunque vult...

    But what, uncle janco?;)
  9. Rich Hartel

    Rich Hartel New Member

    Re: Re: quicunque vult...

    I just checked out Trinity's web site and they were not wiped out.

    However, the web site did mention that they and the surrounding area will be without phones and electrical power for awhile, they suffered some damage to their campus, it must have been some tornado.:eek:
  10. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    You can't spel.:p

    I wonder how Masters Divinity School (sic) fared in the storm?

    Of course, nobody at TTS would know anything about that. ;)
  11. Rich Hartel

    Rich Hartel New Member

    Your right, thats what I get for typing to fast!:D

    As far as Masters is concerned, well, I will just ask them for you the next time I talk to them. I am sure they will be more than happy to let us know, especially, if they know its you uncle janko! :p ;)
  12. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Yeah right! :D
  13. jon porter

    jon porter New Member

    Re: Re: Re: quicunque vult...

    It was. At least 22 killed. Read more. (link to the Star will die in a few days.)

  14. Christopher Green

    Christopher Green New Member

    Thanks for defending my Alma Mater guys.

    Very sad to hear about what happened in the news!

  15. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Your alma mater doesn't really need defending. Its accreditation status, etc., is self-evident. It's the other Trinity discussed here that probably needs a good mouthpiece!

  16. PatsFan

    PatsFan New Member

    IMO your alma mater, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, is one of the finest seminaries in the country.
  17. PatsFan

    PatsFan New Member

    Gregg, do you have a source on Trinity (Indiana's) progress with the RA application? I'd like to read more. It doesn't surprise me. They've made some good changes and their faculty seems really good.

  18. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    I had a fairly long telephone conversation a few months ago with someone reasonably high up in the Trinity food chain; and at that time they were targeting May (or thereabouts) of 2006 as the date of the final visit from the accreditor; and, if so, then they claim the accreditor told them that the accreditation would be officially issued in the August-of-2006 (or thereabouts) timeframe. As far as I know, they're still on that schedule; and they cite as proof that they're likely to stay on said schedule the fact that they've had no trouble so far staying on the aggressive schedule they set for themselves since they first applied. If they do, they'll have gone through the process, front to back, in about two-and-a-half years... impressive by pretty much anyone's standards, I'd say. But that's just me.

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