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Re: Re: The Recognized University Accreditor in Russia

Given that Russian universities would love the $$$; and given that you speak their language, I'm having trouble seeing why you couldn't negotiate some kind of distance PhD program for yourself with one of the universities that doesn't normally do such a thing.

By the way, is this helpful at all?

Or this?

Of course, I'm sure you already know about this site.

How 'bout this.

There's gotta' be somebody on this list that can help, right?

Is there anything in this paper of value... or is it too date? How 'bout this one.

What about this? (Or, perhaps better, yet, for Lerner, the Russian version.)

I also found the following that might (or might not) be helpful:

• DOCTORAL PROGRAMMES
  
  The hierarchy of advanced scientific degrees in Russia traditionally includes Doctor's degrees of two levels: the Candidate of Sciences (Kandidat Nauk) and the Doctor of Sciences (Doktor Nauk). The Candidate of Sciences degree normally requires at least three years of study after the award of the Specialist or the Magistr diploma. The Doctor of Sciences degree can be earned after a period of further study following the award of the Candidate of Sciences degree. In reality, to earn a Doctor of Sciences degree requires five to fifteen years beyond the award of the Candidate of Sciences degree.
  
  Both university level higher education establishments and research institutions have the right to set up doctoral study programmes. Two national bodies, the Education Ministry and the Russian Academy of Sciences are responsible for supervision of doctoral studies in higher education establishments and research institutions, respectively. Upon the decision of these two bodies, doctoral study programmes (aspirantura - for the Candidate of Sciences degree and doctorantura - for the Doctor of Sciences degree) can be opened in those higher education establishments and research institutions that possess the required personnel as well as scientific and financial resources. Higher education institutions must be accredited, and research institutions must have a license granting them the right to carry out educational activities.
  
  The two doctoral degrees can be earned in two ways: as a result of studies in the aspirantura and doctorantura or independently.
  
  The defense of doctoral dissertation is carried out before a Dissertation Council. Dissertation Councils are organized by the Supreme Certifying Committee (Vysshij Attestatsionnyj Komitet, VAK) of the Russian Federation to accept dissertations in given fields of science for hearing in accredited HE and research institutions.
  
  The public defense of the dissertation is held in the form of a public presentation and a scientific debates.
  
  SOURCE: http://www.russianenic.ru/english/rus/#8

And how 'bout this?

Before I keep going, I need to know if anything above is in the least bit useful. I have no idea if anything I've linked-to, above, is directly useful; but is some of it at least indirectly useful (i.e., provides links to something that actually is useful)?

 

Re: Re: The Recognized University Accreditor in Russia

Those are research programs. AFAIK, you take some exams (Kandminimum) and then you work on dissertation. I also believe most schools (and non-school entities like research institutes) allow part-time or external Kandidat students (soiskatel'). So there's no reason this can't be done from U. S. I think if you talk to private schools or regional state schools, tell them that you're willing to pay for your education, most of them would work with you. For example, check out http://www.maup.com.ua/aspirant.php (this is just from the top of my head and not an endorsement of MAUP. In fact, the school has a lousy reputation in Ukraine, in part due to the distinctly anti-semitic views their professors expressed. But they're accredited amd will likely be happy to take your money - if you're willing to give them money, that is).

I distinctly remember some school in Ukraine that lets you take Kandminimum (courses? exams?) over the Internet, with intent that you than could write and defend your thesis elsewhere.

 

...most of wich got renamed to "universities" since.
My school wanted both "National University" title and its 100-year-old name and end up calling itself National Technical University of Ukraine "Kyiv Polytechnical Institute". Pretty. Nearby technical college got the right to avard 5-year degrees and became "State University of Telecommunications". I don't know a single old institute in Kyiv that didn't got the upgraded title. In one famous example, 4 levels up: from "College" to "National University". And the head of college became famous as the world's worst pop singer and got into the parliament.

 

Re: Re: Re: The Recognized University Accreditor in Russia

Thanks,
By the way they still teach in Russian I had 5 in Ukrainian but it was 23 years ego.

And I don't recall ever using the Ukrainian here in states or UK.
Well I do have some music that’s it. Well I don't think school that leans toward anti-Semitic heavier is for me, nor any resist school.
I couldn't stand themasis then, and any rasisf as well.

Any way thanks for the info and Gregg i'm still reading all the links you provided. Looks very interesting.

Learner

 

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You mean, do they accept dissertations in Russian? You should check, but I bet they do.

That's too bad. I have a friend here in Tallahassee who speaks Ukrainian, so I can keep those weak Ukrainian skills I, the "Russian-speaking Ukrainian", possess.
I also have some music. "Okean El'zy", the rock group from L'viv, is my farourite.

Yeah, you probably right. This outfit does not deserve your money. But there are certainly others. I remember this one mostly from a nasty political scandal involving this entity.

Do you have the dissertation topic in hand? If I were you, I would try to contact academic institutes. There's some prestige in doing your PhD at, say, the (what's left of) Glushkov Cybernetics Institute. You basically need to find the professor willing to work with you.

 

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ATTABOY LEARNER!

(You know, I could get to like this guy.)

 

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His statement could be read two ways and I'm guessing he means both.

 

What would those two ways be?

 

1- He objects to bigotry in general.

2- He's Jewish or nominally so.

 

Hmmmm.

She's pregnant or nominally so. Either you are or you aren't, no?
Jack

 

My wife thinks I'm in error for porsuing Russian post graduate education.
Because I leave in US and US citizen and visit UK for extended periods I should concentrate on English skills and English degree.

She thinks that I should try to get in to UNISA in to Ph.D that requires desertation, but first to take additional English classes in local college.



Learner

 

"You are or you aren't" works for conducting a pogrom but it's otherwise up to the individual. Anyone baptized as Christian is nominally Christian but needn't be practicing or believing.

 

Exactly. Vast majority of Russian Jews are not religious. And I noticed from Russian emigration forums that non-Jews tended not to notice the semi-official soviet antisemitism.

 

Hey Lerner,

Check out this:
http://www.emba.ru/programms/dba.shtml

It's the first DBA program in Russia. You surely know ANE (Academy of National Economy, arguably the #1 business school in Russia). The program is short-residence ("3-40 10-day residencies a year"), 3-year and costs $24,000 (or is it Euro - whatever this school thinks "u. e." is equal to).

 

Hi Learner:

Maybe you could do both. Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone make very good language self-instruction media which can usually be bought cheaply on ebay.

I have a question for you. This is NOT a joke or a flame at all. Are you using one of those things where you speak and it types for you? Your command of English grammar is pretty darn good. If I read your posts aloud, lo and behold! I have a perfect Russian accent. For example, you said you didn't want to go to a "resist" school. Huh? What's a "resist" school? Then I read it aloud. "Resist" = racist. Aha! My point is that your English may well be better than you or your wife think it is. If you are in a largely Russian-speaking milieu (wouldn't Brighton Beach qualify?) and using a voice-to-type thing (sorry, I dunno what it's called), then you may be transferring an ACCENT into print, which is wholly different [= your "deferent", which is another English word entirely] from actual incompetence in using English.

In other words, if any or all of my hypothesis is correct, your English is better than it sounds here on DI, and self-instruction media could work relatively cheaply, easily, and effectively for you--whatever grad school DL you decide to pursue.

I repeat that nothing in this post is a flame; do not construe it that way.

 

If what I've read is correct then there exists in Israel a situation of some irony. Some Russians are said claim Jewish ancestry to gain admittance to Israel as a destination or as a waystation with, say, the U.S. as a destination. Shockingly, these people tend to be of criminal proclivity.

That could of course be just a rumor.

 

Sounds entirely plausible. Especially for the early nineties.

On emigration forums, I've also noticed a distinct thread of jealousy towards jews (who can repatriate, or use special program in Germany, or invoke Lautenberg (sp?) act to gain refugee status in US) from some H1B or F1-to-H1b-to-GC immigrants. They feel jews had it "easier". I think it's psychotic. Didn't we exploit the entirely accidental "shortage" to come here? The same sentiment exists towards mail-order brides.

I don't oppose using any legal opportunity to immigrate. Well, I also don't feel it's THAT bad to bend the law a little. (Well, I'm a little mad - illegals make it harder for us lawful immigrants and nonimmigrant aliens to gain entry). Immigration barriers are not God-given moral laws. They are what they are - nessesary but artificial barriers.

 

It would be called a "speech-to-text" device or program; with the reverse being a "text-to-speech" device or program.

And I think maybe you're onto something, there, janko.

 

Yes, at times I do use SPR - to text, we have at work a websfeer server with this producct.
But most of the time I type.
And thanks all for the links and sites I have planty to investigate.


Learner