California Pacific's Bad Advice

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by italiansupernova, Feb 22, 2006.

  1. italiansupernova

    italiansupernova New Member

    At the following CPU link:

    They recommend:

    Prospective students to whom an accredited degree is of paramount importance should enroll in regionally accredited residential university programs and not consider alternative distance learning programs.

    Talk about limiting one's options.... IMO.
  2. David Boyd

    David Boyd New Member

    It would be interesting to know the basis for their opinion.

    It is also noted that the “Council” and Section 94310 of the education code has not existed since 1998. The Council was replaced by the Bureau for Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education.

    With respect to the use of the term “approval” the school might want to look at California Education Code Section 94832(i).
  3. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Perhaps you should call California Pacific University and ask that very question. If you get to talk to Dr. Dalton, he can provide you with an interesting history of the state approval process in California, what tuition rates would be if they sought a different status, and what he means by the term "paramount importance".

    Best wishes,

  4. Randy Miller

    Randy Miller New Member

    Maybe it's Dalton that needs to be informed of some history. Looking at the law that Boyd sited it's clear that the school is not following the law and should be reported.
  5. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

  6. LVerkade

    LVerkade New Member

    My "take" on the CPU comment is that it is expressing part of the CPU admissions policy or philosophy. In other words, if you want to be admitted to the CPU don't follow an alternative distance learning program.
  7. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

  8. Randy Miller

    Randy Miller New Member

    If you read the law, it says that if they use the word "approval" they have to include language that more or less says that approval doesn't mean the state thinks the school is any good.
  9. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    What approval is thought to mean is explained on the web page. Perhaps you should contact the school directly to obtain more information, or perhaps you should contact an attorney who can assist you with interpreting the law.

    Best wishes,

  10. Randy Miller

    Randy Miller New Member

    Did you look up the code section?

    Could you give me the link where approval is described AS REQUIRED BY THE LAW?

    Even if you're right and it is covered somewhere else, the law says that the disclosure must be made every time it's mentioned - not just some of the time.
  11. Randy Miller

    Randy Miller New Member

    Let me help:

    94832(i) No institution or representative of an institution shall use the terms "approval," "approved," "approval to operate," or "approved to operate" without stating clearly and conspicuously that approval to operate means compliance with minimum state standards and does not imply any endorsement or recommendation by the state or by the council.
  12. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Are you referring to this page on the Cal-Pacific website?

    If so, you may want to seek the advice of attorney or an English tutor.

    Best wishes,


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