Another Concordia doctoral grad "busted!"

Princess Chyenne, a famous stripper in the Boson area has been charged wth practicing Psychology without a license. Although she has a legitimate Masters form Lesley College in Counseling Psych, it is her Doctoral Degree from Concordia which has got her "busted" .
http://www.fox25.com/dynamic/images/stories/undercover/psychologist.html

 

another link

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=105941
" never held a doctoral degree in psychology recognized by the state and never had a license to practice. Rather, she allegedly paid $1,299 for an online degree from Republic of Dominica-based Concordia College and University."

 

Anyone who depreciates his/her legitimate work with a bogus degree deserves what is comming to him/her....

 

Boson

A famous stripper, a psychologist and now a particle physicist!

Certainly multi-talented.

 

And NOT from any of the legitimate schools named Concordia.

 

Too bad legit schools can't take back their degrees/diplomas from grads who disgrace themselves by subsequently getting -- or, really, most importantly, actually using -- fake credentials.

 

With her Masters from Lesley she could have probably got licensed as a LMHC in MA. (Licensed Mental Health Counselor) She could have gotten her "doctorate" from Concordia and as long as she identified herself as a LMHC she could have been called "Dr." It was her labeling herself as a Psychologist , rather than Counselor that got her in trouble. ( and of course billing as a Psychologist)
In addition to a legitimate Masters , she reportedly has a real Bachelor's degree from Emerson.

 

Take away my degrees??????????

What????????????????

Are you CRAZY?????????????????

The fact that someone uses a fake degree does not diminish the accomplishment of the other earned degrees.

Even if I used a fake St. Regis degree to run a nuclear plant and supervise the transporting of hazardous waste in highly populated cities I should NEVER have my legitimate degrees taken away.

I can only assume and hope that you are kidding with that statement.

I wonder what Crazy8chick would have to say about this.

 

Re: Take away my degrees??????????

There is precedent (although in a slightly different context).


German University Revokes Ph.D. of Scientist Who Falsified Data as a Bell Labs Researcher

 

Full Article (Google Cache)

 

Re: Take away my degrees??????????

It does not diminish the previous accomplishment. What it does do, IMHO, is that it marks the individual as dishonest, deceitful, lazy, and lacking in self-confidence. So it significantly diminishes their character.

 

You know, people make mistakes. They do things they maybe shouldna hadda, come-ta-think-of-it. If schools are going to start taking away legimate degrees based upon any post-conferral behavior (short of fraud in obtaining said degrees themselves), then they had better start taking them away for all major sins and omissions, not just this.

How about for Driving While Intoxicated? Sure, why not? Tax evasion shows a certain level of dishonesty. Throw that in there, too. Politicians who lie -- tahtahtah -- naughty-naughty, former Dr. Politician. Shoulda been more honest, Mr. Politician. (Heck, we could probably save the time by simply forbidding professional wrestlers, politicians, and other actors from even getting post-secondary degrees in the first place, as a proactive measure.)

In this modest proposal, let's not specialize the punishment to those who obtain fake credentials after having obtained real ones. Let's punish all serious wrong-doers by stripping them of all their degrees. It's the fair thing to do.

And while we're at it, let's take their homes, their jobs, their right to vote, their cars, their wedding bands, their salvation, their family lives, and their pets, and send them to the salt mines for 40 years hard labor. Nobody'll miss 'em, and darn it, we need more salt. Who needs losers like that? Certainly not any upright society of perfection abiding citizens. And maybe we can sell all their stuff to pay back their debt to society, and build orphanages with the money or even better levees down New Orleans way. It's the morally upright, decent, perfection abiding thing to do.

After all, they're evil. People who make mistakes of judgment deserve whatever they get, and if what they get isn't enough by our high, perfect standards, let's make sure the matter's rectified all soon like.

Reality TV needs new ideas (the perfection abiding are getting sick of watching young, healthy types fight it out for dollars on islands), so let's be sure we do all of this on air. People who have stuff and people torn from them for having made mistakes make for really good ratings, and what's good for the ratings is good for America, I hear. Slow-mo' roving cameras cost money, but we can only build so many levees and orphanages with all that money that will be raised, so money will be no object; no perfection abiding citizen will have to spend a hard-earned cent for the special Destruco-matic cameras needed to bring out all the distress lines the people want and need to see on air. Besides, ad time will sell well, and I hear some good universities will pay top dollar for ad time on topic-specific programs. ("Don't want to be the next person on This is Your Outting?, then enroll at QRST U. We're legit.")

 

Your examples are a little excessive (although they are like that to make a point), and taking away the legitimate degree in a situation like this is a little over the top, but there are some precedents in other fields.

Should one keep one's driving licence and the ability to drive a car even if there are repeated driving offences of sufficient severity (such as habitually driving while intoxicated)?

Should a laywer, a doctor,a psychologist or an engineer be allowed to practice indefinitely, even if convicted of severe malpractice?

It is my understanding that in the USA convicted felons lose the right to vote and may or may not regain it after serving their sentence (at least in certain places).

One can also lose one's property if one is suspected (not necessarily convicted) of certain crimes.

So one can lose one's driving licence, one's ability to practice, one's right to vote and one's property, but a degree should never be taken away?

 

Degrees should only be taken away when people do things that annoy me. For instance, people who show bad judgment by voting in politicians who lie, should have their degrees rescinded.

But only in such extreme cases.

 

Re: Take away my degrees??????????

Well, my undergraduate alma mater and my most recent employer have a rather different view . . . they may not use the powers very often, but they do exist.

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/insite/info/gov/calendar/section2/charterstatutes/ (see section 4d)
http://www.admin.ox.ac.uk/statutes/regulations/307-072.shtml#_Toc28140156

Angela

 

I like your proposal. Computers could keep track of who everyone voted for. If the elected official turns out to be worthless putz then those voters that voted for the putz lose their right to vote for that office in the next election. Of course, that would mean that none of us would ever be able to vote for the same office two elections in a row but what the heck.

 

I think that universities taking upon themselves the power to revoke previously awarded degrees is dangerous.

I can understand it in situations where the degree was awarded by mistake or under false pretenses. Perhaps there was a scandal in the university records office or something.

But if the degree was properly awarded for real work, then it's none of the university's damn business how the graduate lives his or her subsequent life.

Universities should not be allowed to hold the threat of degree revocation over graduates in order to coerce their political or social conformity.

 

I don't know if I go that far. But definetelly something must be done. Sometimes colleges are guilty of being arbitrary and capricious. I don't think we want to spend the rest of our lives worying about scrutiny from schools we already graduated from.

Yes, but in Germany the state not the student pays for the degree. Here in America I am still paying for mine.

Amen Brother...

 

Re: Take away my degrees??????????

I agree with you about the legitimate degrees but hope that you are kidding about the last part. I vaguely remember someone posting here (briefly) with that User Name but can't figure out what unique insight "she" could possibly have on this issue. Personally, I would rather read what Henrik Fyrst Kristensen of Knightsbridge or that phony John Dovelos think of such a proposal.

 

I was just kidding

Yeah, I was just kidding about Crazy8chick.

She sparked a rather lengthy and rediculous exchange between me and Des a few months back.