Another AACSB MBA question

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Randell1234, Apr 29, 2004.

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  1. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    Amazing....I understand the CIA recruits at ITT , an ACICS (or whatever) school. Others claim the gov accepts DETC degrees. And this guy says the gov requires AACSB?

    Why an mba for gov work? Wouldn't a Masters in Public Admin be a better fit? I thought mba s were for people that want the private sector where the real money is.

    Love those stock options!

    Am learning gobs here. Thanks all

    Just my opinion
     
  2. w_parker

    w_parker New Member

    I would not be suprised if in the future someone executed an anti-discrimination lawsuit or pursued a suit through one of the anti-trust laws against employers that will not pay for tuition at a RA school, unless their is a specific reason for not doing so. Do they pay for RA courses taken traditionally? I could see their argument for AACSB if it was for online courses only, as they a fairly new and overcoming some stigma and it is a measure of quality control. Untraditional will one day be traditional I believe, especially for graduate studies. At that level you have already developed your learning, study, and social skills, lol, at least I hope so, especially as the United States largest employer, the government, has whole-heartedly accepted it, and many corporations have also.

    Bill
     
  3. -kevin-

    -kevin- Resident Redneck

    Han,

    I would be interested in seeing any government contract that required an AACSB degree. I have attached a link to the Federal Acquisition Regulation. I couldn't find it and I use this regulation daily.

    http://www.arnet.gov/far/

    Also here is a category of labor off of a particular contract currently in use.

    http://www.gsaconnections.com/Labor%20Category_Desc.htm

    I am not arguing the value of the AACSB education, but rather, why would the government want to put itself in the position of having contract inflation due to education reimbursement by the vendor?

    I could see someone justifying reimbursement for a Columbia or Duke, et al degree because I was stupid enough to place this requirement on a vendor.

    You just gave me another management control to address. Love this forum....
     
  4. Han

    Han New Member

    I think when all else fails, the option to note is "Government contracts dictate us to do so." I don't think it is any such case, but it is very interesting only for graduate work, RA is acceptable for undergrad What consistency does that play?

    I do have to say, the place is a great place, and I know the rules, so follow them. Like somebody else said, I can find another place if I was unhappy about this, but I am not, the nice part is there is a selection of schools out there, so it is not that difficult to work within their guidelines.

    Another intersting note is the policy USED to say something like online classes only reimbursed if equivelent classes are not offered at a local instution. I eslcated this one, and they changed the policy.
     
  5. cogent

    cogent New Member

    MBA for You


    Make sure the school is regionally accredited. By the time you get out of the military, any employer will look hard at what you did, how much and who you managed in the military. The MBA will be a great bonus.

    Try "BA in 4 weeks" (the master's section) and Virtual University Gazette for more information.
     
  6. cogent

    cogent New Member

    UMUC, AACSB, Etc....

    A couple of things on this thread.... I teach for UMUC online and I think we all do a terrific job. They are not AACSB'd. Secondly, I have an MBA from a small school that just got AACSB'd. I am close to the professors there and they told me that all of them will get nice pay boosts since they are now AACSB'd. It is a long five year battle to get this GOLD STANDARD of accreditation. Did it mean that much to me? Hey, I'm happy for them and the seal of approval it places on the university. And for their pay boost. But the community college I teach at said for pay purposes my degree had to come from a regionally accredited university. This one has Southern Association accreditation in addition to AACSB. On networking, it is true if you are between 22 and 30 or so face2face will do you better for making friends purposes. But if you are already employed and have circumstances that prevent you from attending face2face fulltime, then there is NOTHING WRONG with online. In fact, there is a lot RIGHT with online, when you think about it.

    I cannot believe any government unit or employer would STIPULATE an MBA must come from an AACSB school. That is silly, frankly. I was with the Department of the Army for many years and I seriously doubt anybody there would even know what AACSB stood for.

    If you want a doctorate to teach at a university, you'd better have an AACSB masters or run the risk of having to take additional hours in your doctoral program. A doctorate from Union, Touro, Nova, Walden, and Argosy (for instance) would really not be considered by a Research I university for a tenure track position. Now, these business faculty positions pay good, if you can get them. $100k+ with summers additional and all kinds of consulting opportunities. And, it is in their best interest to have some kind of "shortage" of faculty in this area as it keeps salaries high, and higher, and highest. I've always thought it to be a phony shortage, frankly.

    Just one man's opinion.....


     

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