An Abortion Story

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by BLD, Aug 18, 2004.

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  1. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Actually, I got some rather grim humor from the joke.

    I admit that abortion for financial reasons makes me sick. I also agree that if I were a doctor, I would have a great deal of trouble performing abortions under almost any circumstances.

    Thing is, do I have the right, even collectively with my fellow citizens, to criminalize the woman or her doctor when she makes this choice? That idea ALSO makes me sick.
     
  2. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    Jojo obviously doesn't know me - I'm known for my insensitivity on sensitive issues.

    Which is why one of my favorite insults is to refer to someone as "the abortion that lived." It works especially well when you're talking about gimps. :D

    By the way, Jojo, your question mark should have been within your closing quotation marks. And for what it's worth, I spoke out on civil disobedience at abortion clinics in my first book, back in 1981. (What did I say? Doesn't matter - I've paid my dues for social justice issues, so now I can sit back and laugh.) :p

    So, anyone for a dead baby float?
     
  3. Who are YOU to judge her choice?

    This woman wanted to have a healthy baby rather than risk 3 sick ones. Triplets will most likely suffer from prematurity. Remember those McCough's septuplets? Those fundamentalist Christians have children with significant disabilities including mental retardation. The family isn't able to support itself, so it relies on the generosity of others. Bobby McCough took a huge risk, including the possiblity of leaving her child without a mother and her husband a widower.

    If you don't like abortion, don't have one. You have no right to impose your beliefs on someone else and you have no right to dictate health care choices of others.
     
  4. Who are YOU to judge her choice?

    This woman wanted to have a healthy baby rather than risk 3 sick ones. Triplets will most likely suffer from prematurity. Remember those McCough's septuplets? Those fundamentalist Christians have children with significant disabilities including mental retardation. The family isn't able to support itself, so it relies on the generosity of others. Bobby McCough took a huge risk, including the possiblity of leaving her child without a mother and her husband a widower.

    If you don't like abortion, don't have one. You have no right to impose your beliefs on someone else and you have no right to dictate health care choices of others.
     
  5. BLD

    BLD New Member

    Okay, then let's make murder legal. After all, we have no right to impose our belief that murder is wrong....right?
     
  6. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member


    Just to clarify, are we referring to accredited abortions? If so, my recommendation is to get your abortions from an accreditor approved by CHEA. Better safe than sorry.



    Tom Nixon
     
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Re: An Abortion Story

    Accredited murder?
     
  8. Casey

    Casey New Member

    Not funny

    You're attemped "joke" is not a bit funny. I have no doubt that you are an evil man. When I got your filthy mom pregnant, she wanted to abort you. I was able to talk her out of it. Maybe I was wrong! ;)
     
  9. mrw142

    mrw142 New Member

    The right to an abortion is based upon absurd grounds, and most legal scholars, even those who are staunchly pro-choice, agree. Without a Constitutional "right to privacy", there exists no right to an abortion. The right to privacy was created--pretty much out of whole cloth--by the Supreme Court in 1965 in Griswold v. Connecticut. It's an interesting "right"--namely because it doesn't exist in the Constritution! This was nothing more than a raw exercise of judicial power--a de facto Constitutional amendment--albeit without taking the trouble to get such approved by Congress and the state legislatures, a requirement that actually does exist in the Constitution. The Supreme Court seized upon this phantom all-encomassing "right" it had fashioned in Griswold to create a further right to terminate a pregnancy in Roe.

    And what of a woman's right to choose to do as she will with her body?--I support it without qualification. Of course, that does not mean she has the additional right to kill a seperate body with its own DNA, central nervous system, etc., irregardless of where that other body may reside.
     
  10. Splas

    Splas New Member

    Wow, you guys are all over the place with this, let me try to reel ya back in.

    What is the abortion debat really about: womens right to choose (heck no), homosexuals (umm no), money (maybe a little).

    Let me tell you what the core of the abortion debat really is. It is in the form of a question:

    What is the definition of human life???

    There it is, one simple sentence.

    What is human life? When does a human being obtain its soul, its..... humanity.

    When does a human creation seperate itself from an animal and obtain the right to live and not be diposed off without punishment. When? There's the question, whose answer would elimanate all this meaningless fighting.

    When life is defined, it is then we can draw the line. BUT only when life is defined, without its definition these crazy "womens rights" cries will always be there.

    Women have no right to murder a human being (nor does anyone), but they do have a right to destroy something that is theirs, but is not a human being.

    IMO at the moment of conception a child, a human child, is born with a soul and should be protected at all costs. They are the most innocent of us all, and deserve to see the world just as we all have.

    That is why I believe abortion is wrong, not because I'm some right wing nut that hates women, but because I believe that innocent, faultess life is being destroyed everyday because of this horrible deception of "choice".
     
  11. mrw142

    mrw142 New Member

    Let me tell you what the core of the abortion debat really is. It is in the form of a question:

    What is the definition of human life???

    There it is, one simple sentence.

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    I agree--well put.
     

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