ACLAS - A strange school with a partnership with IEE

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  1. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    We discuss a lot of controversial educational outfits here with some that I've even attended or are affiliated with. This one is very strange because it is non-accredited here in the US as a school in Atlanta, Georgia but has a partnership with IEE.

    It has been discussed in the sister forum with degree pricing very similar to ENEB. It also has an accreditation with CPD certification in the UK and uses a verification service with Qualification Check.

    Check it out: https://aclas.college/

    I'm thinking about asking IEE how they evaluate this school. I'm guessing it will be considered completion of professional training / continuing education based on these degrees consisting of CPD certified courses.
     
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  2. tadj

    tadj Well-Known Member

    If you receive an authentic degree from a degree mill, it can be verified as really coming from that degree mill. That’s my commentary on the Qualification Check reference. Great organization, but their stated goals do not include degree authorization or accreditation of any sort.

    As for IEE, it is a superb credential evaluator, a member of NACES. If they tell you that you received continuing education units in professional training from some organization, what difference will it make when you’re holding a Doctor of Business Administration degree from ACLAS? How would that be satisfactory for an ACLAS degree holder? IEE typically does foreign degree evaluations instead of evaluating colleges from Atlanta.

    Of course, the one “good thing” is that you can use documents from those services to deceive employers. It may work. A good deal, if someone wants to manipulate others.
     
  3. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    That is what's surprising to me... I don't even think Validential would evaluate this school since it is here in the US. Yet, IEE has a partnership with a US based non-accredited school. It has to be the CPD-UK certified courses that they are evaluating as foreign credential(s) just like it is Universidad Isabel I for accreditation to evaluate ENEB.
     
  4. tadj

    tadj Well-Known Member

    I would leave this issue until we find out what this partnership entails. It may not even amount to much. We do know that the college is on a consumer warning list in Georgia, having no authorization to issue any degrees in that state at this time. That's a fact.
     
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  5. tadj

    tadj Well-Known Member

  6. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for sharing this link. It is my first time seeing it. I will contact IEE's CEO on LinkedIn as he might not know that this is going on. They will likely end that partnership with ACLAS when this is brought to their attention or atleast give them time to bring their school to a legal standing of operation.
     
  7. tadj

    tadj Well-Known Member

    They posted what the Qualification Check document shows. The document does not tell you whether the institution is accredited or not. It just checks whether the instiution from which you claim to have the degree really issued this degree to you; certificate serial number, etc.

    https://aclas.college/page/qualificationcheck

    In other words, nothing special.
     
  8. tadj

    tadj Well-Known Member

    We're seeing various legitimate organizations doing vertifications for non-accredited, or even illegally operating, non-authorized schools. In some other cases, electronic diplomas are issued by the same organizations that provide these services to accredited universities. This isn't a good development. I wish they were more circumspect. While this does not result in someone ending up with an accredited degree on the basis of an unaccredited one, the issued documents could potentially be used in scams.

    Here's a recent Parchment degree diploma that I saw: https://www.parchment.com/u/award/8ab74305750baf243d1299090bf59938

    *At least, Andersonville is authorized to issue religious exempt degrees in Georgia. ACLAS hasn't even bothered to get approval to issue secular degrees in their state.
     
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  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Parchment's job is to verify that organization X issued credential Y to recipient Z. It doesn't imply that they're adhering to any particular position on academic legitimacy.
     
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  10. tadj

    tadj Well-Known Member

    Parchment has partners like the Association of Registrars of the Universities and Colleges of Canada (ARUCC) and major American universities. I also use their service. I guess that I could tolerate non-accredited schools partnering with Parchment. I get the point about not taking a particular position on academic legitimacy, but I think that the organization should not be a partner to illegally operating schools. It's time to demand proof of basic legal operations from their partners. They should check who they're dealing with. For example, you don't want to provide verified, secure and official electronic degree diplomas for criminal gangs under the guise of schools.
     
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  11. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    Too late. Many universities behave like criminal gangs, so... :)
     
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  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Come on, you make it sound like we're talking about money laundering for terrorists.
     
  13. tadj

    tadj Well-Known Member

    Imagine if they were sending thousands of verified, secure and official degree diplomas to Axact school graduates. Would Parchment's reputation be on the line? Would there be a reaction from their major university partners? It's better to prevent such scandals. If you let everyone participate (including illegally operating players), you definitely run that risk.
     
  14. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    I messaged the CEO of IEE about their partnership with ACLAS and this is what he stated:
    We provide evaluations for non-us education. The evaluations we provide are for incoming students and has no bearing with regards to the status or recognition of the institutions we provide the services for. We provide evaluations for any institution that requests them, governmental, non-profit, or business. The relationship we have with this institution is to provide the stated service on the landing page you referenced above, much like any other business with a vendor relationship. It’s not a recommendation or endorsement for anyone to attend this institution.

    I replied back with:
    I figured it wasn't an endorsement but thought it was interesting to see a US based school being evaluated. I can see the CPD-UK relationship being what is actually evaluated and the result being completion of professional training / continuing education.

    He gave me a thumbs up.
     
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  15. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    Off topic? Why are prices listed as ###$ instead of $###?
     
  16. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    That's strange.... They may have just recently changed that as it is my first time noticing it. It's only in the detailed iframe with the apply now section. The rest of the website has the $ in the correct position.
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2025
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  17. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    Thanks for sharing that website!
     

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