Accreditation Trick???

OK, here is more... I got spoke with the Director of Doctoral Programmes. She has not had this come up before, and is looking into it.

The degree is from Brunel University.
Transcripts are from Henley Mangement College.

She is checking with the registrar to find out wha tthe determination is... get back to you soon.

 

Confusion furhter defined!?

From AACSB Eligibility Procedures and Standards for Business Accreditation as Adopted: April 25, 2003:

I don' tink even day no how too handle Henley/Brunel. Further reading seems to indicate that since the program is handled and administered by Henely, and Henley is accredited thus !?!?

As someone else mentioned above, how is the London School of Economics handled?

Personnaly I would go for it, as just getting in is a big step.

 

Kristie7:

So sorry to hear about your troubles. It seems as though we all have battles from time to time with our schools and education but this one is tuff. I hope you get the answers that you need.

Regarding your statement though..."Didn't I ask the question correctly"....yes you did but for some reason some college administrators just don't answer the questions. I don't know if they are not reading the entire email or they just don't put enough effort into their replys. I see that a lot. It is always an upward battle, but in the end it will be worth it.

Stay on top of them and make sure you document everything that they tell you. Best of luck!!!

Duff

 

Here is the latest with AACSB, they don't seem to have a question...

Kristie, Brunel U is not a member of AACSB International, which is a criteria for seeking accreditation. If they award the degree, it will not be considered to be from an AACSB accredited institution.

I have a plan B.

 

Kristie:
It's nice to hear that you have a second plan. Brunel is not seeking AACSB accreditation and as a result it may not apply for membership of AACSB. Like I have said in the past, any school that is interested in AACSB has to start with AACSB membership. I hope that TUI has already done than.
Whatever action you choose to take, you should be convinced that the outcome will meet your current and future needs. Prestigious universities in the U.K, such as Oxford and Cambridge do not need AACSB accreditation. I am sure that any business school in the U.S will be proud to have an Oxford or Cambridge Ph.D. as a faculty member despite their lack of AACSB accreditation. I also believe that a holder of Brunel Ph.D. would not have much difficulty finding employment in some business schools in the U.S.
In your case, AACSB accreditation takes precedence over an institution's prestige because of the reasons that you have stated in earlier. With the current Henley/Brunel arrangement, I don't foresee any problem with reimbursement. Your employer will not reimburse if the business program is not AACSB-accredited but Henley bachelor’s and MBA degrees have AACSB accreditation and Henley supplies the transcript, so employer reimbursement will not be a problem for you. The only issue here is that your diploma will be issued by Brunel if Henley fails secure approval to award doctoral degree before you graduate. Prof. Kennedy ha suggested that this approval may be granted in a year or so. If I were you, I will take my chance. I will go ahead and register. It's a tough situation that calls for tough choice but the tough choice is yours to make. Good luck Kristie.

Ike Okonkwo

 

Things are getting more hecktick. I had my reservation to leave Saturday for a Monday interview. I just received an e-mail that they are not available, and wanted to push out 2 weeks.

I had already made my flight (over $3,000 with a 4 day notice) NOT company reimburseable, so I will now pay a fee to change.

They said the interview is critical, so I need to fly, but the Director is not available, only the head of the department. I will met with one, then televideo with the other late in the month.

Maybe doing a doctorate the requires short residency out of country is not the right way to go, I know I have to travel back out in September, but no dates yet.... This is getting to be very expensive.

I am on a roller coaster.......Thanks for listening.

 

Ah, yes welcome to the world of DL doctoral studies, and one of the reasons I went with a US program over an international one, cost!

UK, SA, & Oz programs often have a lower cost for tuition and fees, but one or two trips can eat up the entire difference. I was originally looking at a program through Univeristy of Queensland, the cash cost was about $3,000/year for four years or $12,000 versus Colorado State at about $5,000/year for four years or $20,000. In addition I would need to travel once a year to Kenmore, Qld at about $2,000 airfare plus about $120/day for 7-10 days on site. The CSU program also requires about one triip per year at $303 airfare and also about $120/day for 3 days. Final cost picture slightly favored CSU, plus communications would be easier.

Yet, I sometimes wish I had gone the other way....

 

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Ike - What happened?

 

I had wanted to know why you didn't consider Case Western University's Doctor of Management (DM), which has AACSB accreditation, but I deleted my message after I remembered that it is an executive doctoral program.

 

Actually I did consider this one, very seriously, but they require monthly visits for three years. CA to Cleveland would have killed me every 4 weeks. (and killed the pocket book) $45K as I remember for tuition and place fare, hotel, etc. etc.