AACSB-Accredited DBA

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  1. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Jacksonville University's DBA used to be hybrid, but it's now 100% online. They offer concentrations in accounting, healthcare leadership, management, or you can customize your own.

    https://www.ju.edu/dcob/doctorate/index.php
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Interesting that they acknowledge it is a professional degree, yet they have tracks for academics and practitioners. This seems to be reflected in the choice of a dissertation, project, or series of research papers. I suspect the first can be either scholarly or based in practice, while the other two seem pointed towards practice. Good for them.

    Looks like the expected time-in-program is 3 years.

    But, despite their desire to provide a scholarly path, and despite the AACSB accreditation (which is significant in business academia), I remain skeptical about using this degree to enter an academic career. That process is not just about the degree. It's becoming part of the culture. It's interning, being a teaching assistant, being a research assistant, publishing papers, presenting at symposia, mentoring, and networking.

    This is why there are no books on how practitioners with doctoral degrees can transition to the academic sector. Because it's not a thing. It happens, but only when someone really wants you. If you think you can earn this degree and then just start applying for open faculty positions, good luck.
     
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  3. life_learner

    life_learner New Member

    I joined a couple of information sessions with this program. If one selects a concentration, then there will be a few more concentration related courses.
    It looks like a couple of graduates landed teaching professor job. They were CPAs and had long accounting related career before the program so it's not the norm,
     
  4. Jahaza

    Jahaza Member

    I'd think what it would be useful for is for people who already have teaching jobs at community colleges and the like to advance their pay to the level paid for doctorate holders and to potentially get additional work or even a new job at graduate-level programs.
     
  5. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Wow! JU's DBA costs ~$100,000.00 plus "Additional program costs might include: books, software, personal technology needs, travel and accommodations to Jacksonville, research costs (data, travel, data gathering, paper and printing), academic association memberships and conference travel. Dissertation extensions beyond the 3 year program are an additional charge." Is there an ROI for this degree?
     
  6. life_learner

    life_learner New Member

    One interesting fact is that this program does have some scholarship and there is also the possibility of working as assistant. It's not clear the real cost after all that.
    It seems the Marshall University DBA program is a lot more affordable, even though there are a few required residences.
     
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Depends on the individual situation, doesn't it?

    Beyond money, what if the degree helps you become who you really want to be? What's the price tag on that? Or the ROI?

    And let's not forget that individuals are not the only audience. What would be the ROI on putting an executive through this program who becomes your CEO? Or someone who innovates new solutions for your company? $100K might seem like a drop in the bucket.

    I'm often surprised by these reactions. Obviously, someone is getting their ROI on these programs, or they wouldn't exist for long. Not everyone is being bamboozled into paying for a high-cost degree that brings an insufficient return. Or, better yet, my guess is that no one is being tricked into it. Not at all.

    (I don't know if there is research on this topic. I only have my own observations--and my own experiences--to go on.)
     
  8. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I do not think the transition from practitioner to academic is hard. I have seen too many faculty positions, especially in CJ, that require or prefer professional experience. I don't know of too many traditional students who have such experience. My chair at one of the adjunct schools (Catholic college) was working on Wall Street while pursuing her Ph.D. at CUNY. She is now an associate professor of CJ. I know another associate professor who spent many years as a police officer in the NJ area. He pursued his Ph.D. at John Jay and obtained a position at a Catholic university in Philly. I also worked in law enforcement, juvenile justice, and K-12 before getting my TT position in CJ. If you have the right background (education, experience - professional/teaching, including online, and publications), you can obtain a full-time professor position.
     
  9. life_learner

    life_learner New Member

    It seems some of JU DBA cohort 6 members are attending the program from Africa because of the program's flexibility. For some folks, the flexibility of the program and AACSB accreditation are what they are looking for.
     
  10. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Anecdotes abound, and I've accounted for them. If you can point to either research or other authoritative writing indicating otherwise, I'd love to see them. Seriously.
     
  11. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I read a short article showing which level and type of degree and what type of experience is preferred for TT, full-time non-TT, and adjunct positions in CJ. I'll come back with the link to tomorrow if I bookmarked it.
     
  12. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

  13. life_learner

    life_learner New Member

    I looked into the Grenoble program. Cost is $60,000 and there is also the possibility of $10,000 scholarship so the net cost around $50,000. However, I don't believe you can use tuition assistance with this program.
    For the JU program, if one can get the $10,000 scholarship per year, cost before tuition assistance around $70,000 and around $50,000 after tuition assistance.
    In any case, the Marshall University DBA seems better as there is no need to consider scholarship.
     

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