25 year NPR vet deconstructs its abandonment of journalism

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  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-trust

    Wow. The author, Uri Berliner, has been a reporter at NPR for twenty-five years and is still there now. What he says about NPR is utterly damning, and from what I can see it applies just as well to most other mainstream media outlets, at least in the US.
     
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  2. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Yes. I found it interesting that for all the talk of diversity and inclusion he notes 87 of their editors are Registered Democrats and zero are Republicans.

    You sense the lean in the stories and terminology but you just hoped for more (better).
     
  3. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    You have MSNBC/CNN/Fox toddling along with their ideological issues but somewhere there needs to be news. Just news. Don't subtly/passive aggressively tell us how to think just provide facts and data. If you do editorials label them and keep them balanced in terms of rotation.

    Our shift in the last few years has been to mask editorials as news and journalism.
     
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  4. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    How can a well-informed media professional, in this day and age, identify as a Republican? Also, Russiagate is not "debunked", and Hunter's laptop origins remain murky (even though some emails are verified).

    One thing I'll concede, though - NPR does come across as one-sided. Israel coverage, specifically. I accept their points, and even I feel they could have given the dissenting sides more fair treatment.
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I've noticed the transition in NPR that Berliner describes over the last eight years. I used to listen to them fairly often (in the car, like most people), but now I just listen to specialty podcasts or music instead. The only shows of theirs nowadays that don't irritate me are "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me" and "How I Built This".

    One example of the change was when the Diane Rehm Show ended and was succeeded by 1A. Diane Rehm was a fantastic moderator -- sure, she had an opinion, and you probably could guess what it was, but she knew her job was to highlight her guests, not herself. And her guests represented an array of opinion, not just one view. Contrast that with 1A, a show literally named after the first amendment, where they had an episode about free speech that didn't have any free speech advocates as guests.

    Another example is that I've noticed that increasingly when interviewing someone, NPR hosts will make little vocalizations to let you know when you're supposed to agree with the guest. Nothing that would make it into a transcript, just a little "Hmm!" It's subtle, but once you know to listen for it, it's very common.
     
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  6. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    I love How I built This. And the Puzzler with Will Shortz and Ayesha Rascoe. Unfortunately, Will had a stroke and is in recovery. Others are okay but no one is the Puzzlemaster (Will Shortz).
     
  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I love listening to NPR, while in each state various frequencies, in LA it's 91.5 FM and when I lived in SF Valley it was on 88.9 FM. And in New York it was on FM and Am, 830 AM.
    Good programming.

    After reporters, Mr Uri Berliner sayings about NPR,
    NPR responded:

    https://www.npr.org/2024/04/09/1243755769/npr-journalist-uri-berliner-trust-diversity

     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    It's not like they were going to say, "Yeah, he really nailed it. We'll do better."
     
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  9. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    They exist in a vacuum or matrix as a progressive psychologist noted of conservative and liberal on one of their own programs. Unaware of what is going on outside the bubble or how others perceive them.

    They aren't Fox, MSNBC, or CNN but they aren't what they aspire to be either. They could do better but probably won't because they are comfortable in the bubble.
     
  10. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Real talk: right now, RNC's litmus test for a "real Republican" is a belief that 2020 election was rigged. If "viewpoint diversity" means that half of the newsroom should believe THAT, it's not that desirable a goal. Now, NPR should include more viewpoints, but is it even possible to stay sane and have the righties recognize you as "balanced" anymore?
     
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  11. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Registered Republican in 2024 is a terrible proxy variable for conservative.

    I am curious how many people in the population have voted or registered Republican in the past, or downballot. I'm also curious how many are registered independents or third-party.
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Very true.

    It's worth noting that Uri Berliner said he voted against Trump twice and that there were no Republicans there, including himself, not that he was the only one.
     
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  13. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I've been listening to NPR for a long time and haven't noticed much of a difference. They've always been slightly left-leaning - most college-educated Americans are left-leaning. Republicans have always hated NPR, especially when it was publicly funded. It's kind of hard to recruit people who hate you.

    NPR provides a nice balance to political radio, which is dominated by right wing entertainers. Sometimes, one side is just plain wrong. If you tell the honest truth about the post-Trump Republican Party, it's going to sound bad because it is bad. There are hardly any sane, Mitt Romney-like Republicans left.
     
  14. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    NPR is the best of a bad media world. I have long felt that media has been dominated by Left and Right Wing entertainers. The Right had Rush, Hannity, and now Joe Rogan. The Left had Maddow, Lemon, O'Donnell and a host of others. I used to watch Maddow and laugh at the attempted manipulation and poor connections.

    I listen and filter through the bias.

    We have come to the point in this country where one party is running a sketchy, egomaniacal nut (Trump). And the other is running a guy (Biden) who has a long history of saying weird stuff, lying bizarrely about his credentials, is cognitively a very elderly man with mobility and speech issues. The VP isn't too bright and not ready for Prime Time in terms of Leadership. What in the name of all that is holy happened.

    Dems are as bad as Republicans. MTG on one side and on the other someone (Sheila Jackson) who thinks the moon is made of gas. Neither will be competing on an academic decathlon soon.
     
  15. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    On another note, Robert MacNeil passed away at 93.
     
  16. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Biden's gaffes are utterly inconsequential, and his "lies about credentials" are a mild version of Trump's "I was a very good student". On the other hand, we have a guy with 91 indictments, penchant for authoritarianism, serial lying problem, and clear family ties to both Putin and MBS of Saudi Arabia. Oh, and he is a cognitively very elderly man with mobility and speech issues. Pretending there is a balance here is same as lying.

    MTG runs the GOP now, and a well-rounded dumbass. Sheila Jackson is a backbencher with some bizarre knowledge gaps outside of her field of expertise. Balance?

    p. s. the usual opposite number of MTG is AOC. Intelligence gulf between the two is enormous.
     
  17. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Denial ain't just a river in Egypt (apparently). The Emperor has no clothes no matter how much you pretend and try to get us to pretend with you
     
  18. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Actually 3 felonies in the Georgia trial were dropped so Trump's gone from 91 indictments to only 88. Still probably multiple life times of behind bars for a 77 year old.
     
  19. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Not only does MTG not run the Republican party, she's in the doghouse with those who do for her nonsense motion to remove Mike Johnson as Speaker.
     
  20. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    They THINK they run GOP.

    Would you say MTG is comparable to Rep. Sheila Jackson in influence? Level of idiocy? I just don't think it's a valid comparison on any level.
     

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