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Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Randell1234, Sep 9, 2002.

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  1. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    I must respectfully disagree. Undoubtedly, many individuals have found a significant amount of utility in their unaccredited degrees.

    The troubling aspect of this, however, is that the degree of usefulness of most unaccredited degrees is in direct proportion to the apathy, ignorance, and/or incompetence of the person charged with evaluating the degree, as well as the ethics (or lack thereof) of the person presenting the credential.

    Even those whose hold degrees from outright diploma mills extract some measure of utility from their degrees. That is, of course, up until the fraudulent nature of the credentials are exposed. If this were not so, the purveyors of fraudulent and substandard degrees would not do the booming business they do.
     
  2. OracleGuy

    OracleGuy New Member

    That's not utility Sir, that's called dumb luck. Much like the click of an empty chamber held against your corporate temple. Shades of "The Deer Hunter" (or was it Apocalypse Now?) :(

    Cheers...Randy
     
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  3. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Re: Valid Points

    RJT, can you tell us if your K-W degree has helped you to get a promotion or a raise in the workplace?

    I have never heard any evidence of a direct promotion or pay raise based on an unaccredited degree. Saying that because a holder of an unaccredited degree is a CEO or a professor the degree is of some utility is not enough evidence, we would have to see a direct promotion or pay increase based on the degree itself as a proof of such utility.

    A K-W degree would not allow you to apply to goverment jobs or academia, you are just counting on your luck of a HR officer not doing his homework and to let you get a pay range of an accredited RA Bachelor's degree holder. If the position doesn't need a bachelor's degree then there is no point to get a K-W degree and you better concentrate to get some industry skills instead.

    A person that I know got a very good job based on a unaccredited degree mill at a very well known university as a computer programmer. After some months, the HR officer found out and let him go after he quit his job. You could say that he is a succesful professional but the job required an accredited degree and he tried to fill the gap with a degree that later on exploted in his face.

    What is the point? to fill a gap in your resume? or have some feeling of achievement?or do you feel guilty because you dropped from college in your younger days and need a degree to show in your high school reunion? I don't see more utility than this.
     
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I must even more respectfully agree with your disagreement! What you say is true but I argue that the kind of utility that you speak of could be gained just about as well by lying about graduating from a good school or just totally fabricating a whole school and then giving yourself a degree.

    Now this does bring up one possible argument that I have not heard recently supporting unaccredited schools. That is the unaccredited school allows the person to basically lie about having a degree but minimizes their legal vulnerability for the lie. If that argument were used then I'd probably be forced to admit for that purpose that a K-W degree might be good enough.
     

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