Is University Of Phoenix Legit?

Thanks, Bill....Im looking at Troy State and its looks kinda kewl. It's RA so im looking into it....thanks for the help.

Dom

 

$1266 for 3 credit hours

UOP online is $1266 for a 3 credit hour course. What is the highest quality and best reputation school with a BA/BS in business or finance for this cost or less?

Thank you

 

Re: Re: Re: It depends

I don't concur. While I think that UOP is much better than middle-of-the-pack DETC schools, I would say that they are not as good as the DETC "top tier" schools (and by that I mean the top 4 or 5 DETC schools).

Now why do they have regional accreditation and the others don't? UOP has a whole lot of money.This is a basic requirement to secure regional accreditation.


Tom Nixon

 

Yes it is

The question here is whether it is a legitimate institition and the answer is yes. Of course it is. It is accredited, it is a private school, it is a real place where you can physically go to school there if you want. I am getting my Masters through them right now. It is in Elementary Education with teacher licensure. I live in Alaska and the state of Alaska approves a UOP degree as comparable to what their state requires. It is very legitimate.

Many people will like to compare it to other schools and say it isn't as good as those schools which is fine...but that is not the question. Of course you could say the same thing about Florida State University vs. Harvard. One is more prestigious than the other.

 

Regarding the statement that UoP is better than the top DETC schools.

I'm not so sure about that. This statement is true if at some point one wanted to pursue a higher degree but some of the top DETC schools have a very good reputation with some nice specialities, e.g., AMU. For some people I can see that a DETC school may be a better choice. Although there's no doubt in the truth of the general statement that RA is the gold standard and DETC is the silver standard.

 

Re: Re: Re: Re: It depends

Institutions that are good at separating the student body from their money become RA, those who aren't must settle for less. Keep that in mind the next time you feel compelled to dump on a non-RA school. (Or should I say, "bear" that in mind, clones?)

 

Like a McDonalds commercial...

The UoP is now showing TV commercials for their product.

I get the impression that education is getting cheapened and dumbed down, while concurrently charging top dollar for it.

 

I agree with you Bill. Actually, I have seen some DETC accredited school requirements that frankly are no less stringent than RA. I don't think we are talking about quality but utility.

Certainly Uof P is not anywhere near the creme de la creme of undergrad institutions. You go....you pay.....you get an RA degree. Many DETC degree granting insitutions are going to be as stringent or more so than U of P. UNISA being a DETC school I would have to say they are certainly superior to U of P. A quick glance at Catholic Distance University requirements (extensive reading lists, etc) and I would say they may well be ahead of U of P in the graduate & undergrad level.

Actually, if I had unlimited amounts of money I would enjoy taking courses and degree from several of the DETC accredited schools. CDU, WH Taft U, etc.

North

 

I really do not have problems with schools heavily marketing there programs with TV commercials, internet ads, etc. I remember my days of looking for a school for my undergrad degree and all the viewbooks that were sent even though I did not request them, an average day meant 30 to 40 viewbooks (including a few duplicates). As I can recall, quite a few schools both for profit and non profit have been doing it for years. Growing up in northeast Ohio in the late 80s/early 90s, we were constantly bombarded by advertisements for Kent State, Cleveland State, several of the private liberal art colleges in addition to a few of the community colleges. In many cases, these commercials touted the same benefits that UOP uses today, but of course there motivation wasn't directly for profit, but in a way they were since it ended up with larger subsidies for the school, money to build new buildings, raises for faculty, etc.

I think the difference, is that UOP has made a much more concerted nation-wide effort in both advertising and capitalizing on a population that has basically heard for years that if you don't get your degree right out of high school, you are out of luck. Of course those of us who hang out here know otherwise, but I have heard it in quite a few places as I discuss how I finished my MBA online.

 

Redlyne Racer wrote:

> Institutions that are good at separating the student body
> from their money become RA,

-- if they also meet the academic standards. I haven't heard of any cases of an unworthy school that bribed its way to RAhood. Have you?

> those who aren't must settle for less. Keep that in mind the
> next time you feel compelled to dump on a non-RA school. (Or
> should I say, "bear" that in mind, clones?)

A totally undeserved insult. If we're Bear clones, then why are most of us who have opined on Knightsbridge University (which is unaccredited) negative about it, while John Bear himself is "slightly positive"?

 

Re: Re: Re: Re: It depends

Hi Tom,

In terms of educational quality, some top DETC schools may be better. In terms of creditability of diplomas in the academia, UoP diplomas are by far better than those issued by DETC schools.

 

Money making business

Here is my opinion on that topic....college education has always been a money making business. Look at all the people who have huge college loans to pay back. This has nothing to do with distance learning. Any school that charges tuition is a money making business. There isn't a single school that I know of that is not also making money. State schools of course are about the one and only example of not making a ton of money but anytime you come across a private school...yes Harvard/Yale/Princeton...gasp....all these are making huge amounts of dough off their students and their parents....the bottom line is that you need that piece of paper to go forward. Unless you're planning on going to one of the top 10 universities or you're planning on going to one of the top universities in your field it doesn't matter where you go so long as you get that piece of paper. We are all in the same boat. You should do what works for you. If UOP works for me then yeah for me. If some other school works for you then that is great too. There is already enough people ready to delegitimitize any degree that you get online, no need for us to do it to ourselves!! Is it accredited? Is it legit? Go for it...do what works....

 

Ike is absolutely correct in most cases. Rich Douglas and John Bear have researched this far more than I ever care to. Even DETC's own surveys indicate that DETC degrees are not as widely accepted as RA degrees. Last year, I did my own little (very unscientific) email survey. I have previously posted the response from Thomas Edison State College. I Thought that I had lost all of my emails from that period, but just this morning I happened across two responses while looking for something else:

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Dear sir,

After consultation with our office of the Registrar at the University of
Denver, the answer to your survey questions regarding acceptance of American
Military University degrees and transfer credit is that each individual
would be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. If you have additional
questions please explore our University of Denver Website: http://www.du.edu

Karen Fennell
Graduate Studies
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Charles,
I checked with our Registrar's Office, and following are answers to the
questions in your email. Please contact me if you still have other
questions.

Diane Ellison
Director of Graduate Enrollment Services
Rochester Institute of Technology
phone: (716) 475-2229
fax: (716) 475-7164


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Tomalty [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:53 AM
To: Diane Ellison
Subject: Re: FW: ACCEPTANCE OF AMERICAN MILITARY UNIVERSITY DEGREES
ANDTRANSFERCREDIT


1. no
2. no
3. see 4
4. yes
5. not if that is their only accreditation. Schools must be regionally
accredited (or ACE reviewed) for us to award transfer credit. Other
accreditations are meaningless.

> Diane Ellison wrote:
>
> Do you know anything about this university? Would we accept
> credit/degree etc?
>
>
> Diane Ellison
> Director of Graduate Enrollment Services
> Rochester Institute of Technology
> phone: (716) 475-2229
> fax: (716) 475-7164
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ann Cordy
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 2:58 PM
> To: Diane Ellison
> Subject: FW: ACCEPTANCE OF AMERICAN MILITARY UNIVERSITY DEGREES AND
> TRANSFER CREDIT
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grad Enroll/Part-Time Enroll Services
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:54 AM
> To: Ann Cordy
> Subject: FW: ACCEPTANCE OF AMERICAN MILITARY UNIVERSITY DEGREES AND
> TRANSFER CREDIT
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Fout
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:40 AM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: ACCEPTANCE OF AMERICAN MILITARY UNIVERSITY DEGREES AND
> TRANSFER CREDIT
>
> Dear university and college officials,
>
> I am a student at American Military University (www.amunet.edu). I
> am researching the acceptance of American Military University degrees
> and transfer credit.
>
> Please complete the brief five question survey below. Respond to each
> question by indicating "YES", "NO", or "CASE-BY-CASE".
>
> 1. Would your college or university consider accepting an American
> Military University Master of Arts degree as a qualification for
> admission to a doctorate program?
>
> 2. Would your college or university consider accepting an American
> Military University Bachelor of Arts degree as a qualification for
> admission to a masters degree program?
>
> 3. Would your college or university consider accepting graduate level
> transfer credit from American Military University?
>
> 4. Would your college or university consider accepting graduate and
> undergraduate level transfer credit, which has been evaluated by the
> American Council on Education (ACE), from American Military
> University?
>
> 5. Would your college or university consider accepting transfer
> credit and degrees from other degree granting institutions which are
> accredited by the Distance Education and Training Council (DETC)?
>
> Thank you for taking the time to respond to this brief survey.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Charles W. Fout
> Spotsylvania, VA

--
Michael Tomalty
Assistant Registrar
Rochester Institute of Technology
(585) 475-2870

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Most of those who responded, indicated no desire to accept DETC degrees and credits. However, there were a few, Liberty University, Capella University, and one or two more who were willing to accept DETC degrees and credits, along with a couple of maybes like the University of Denver. According to APUS/AMU the list of those willing to accept credits has grown since then to include Fielding Graduate Institute and a few others. The website (www.apus.edu), which is apparently off-line at the moment (commencement was yesterday I think), lists the schools that have accepted APUS/AMU credits.

 

Simple question. Simple answer: yes.