QS World University Rankings 2024

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  1. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Leicester dropped 100 points. I have no idea how that is.

    MIT is number one. Harvard, 4. The Battle of Cambridge continues.
     
  3. nyvrem

    nyvrem Active Member

    mmm.. National University of Singapore (NUS) is 8th?

    UCB is 10th?

    Caltech is 15th?

    Yale is 16th?

    Princeton is 17th?

    yeah ok. i keep forgetting its just the annual 'who's penis is bigger' competition
     
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  4. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    Some intriguing insights from Richard Holmes, an expert on world rankings:

    "The decline of western academic research becomes more apparent every time a ranking with a stable and moderately accurate methodology is published. This will not be obvious if one just looks at the top ten, or even the top fifty, of the better known rankings. Harvard, Stanford, and MIT are usually still there at the top and Oxford and Cambridge are cruising along in the top twenty or the top thirty.

    But take away the metrics that measure inherited intellectual capital such as the Nobel and Fields laureates in the Shanghai rankings or the reputation surveys in the QS, THE, and US world rankings, and the dominance of the West appears ever more precarious. This is confirmed if we turn from overall rankings to subject and field tables.

    Take a look at the most recent edition of the CWTS Leiden Ranking, which is highly reputed among researchers although much less so among the media. For sheer number of publications overall, Harvard still holds the lead although Zhejiang, Shanghai Jiao Tong and Tsinghua are closing in and there are more Chinese schools in the top 30. Chinese dominance is reduced if we move to the top 10% of journals but it may be just a matter of time before China takes the lead there as well.

    But click to physical sciences and engineering. The top 19 places are held by Mainland Chinese universities with the University of Tokyo coming in at 20. MIT is there at 33, Texas A & M at 55 and Purdue 62. Again the Chinese presence is diluted, probably just for the moment, if we switch to the top 10% or 1% of journals.

    Turning to developments in applied research, the shift to China and away from the West, appears even greater.

    The SCImago Institutions rankings are rather distinctive. In addition to the standard measures of research activity, there are also metrics for innovation and societal impact. Also, they include the performance of government agencies, hospitals, research centres and companies.

    The innovation rankings combine three measures of patent activity. Patents are problematic for comparing universities but they can establish broad long-term trends.

    Here are the top 10 for Innovation in 2009:

    1. Centre Nationale de la Recherche Scientifique

    2. Harvard University

    3. National Institutes of Health, USA

    4. Stanford University

    5. Massachusetts Institute of Technology

    6. Institute National de las Sante et de la Recherche Medicale

    7. Johns Hopkins University

    8. University of California Los Angeles

    9. Howard Hughes Medical Institute

    10. University of Tokyo.

    And here they are for 2023:

    1. Chinese Academy of Sciences

    2. State Grid Corporation of China

    3. Ministry of Education PRC

    4. DeepMind

    5. Ionis Pharmaceuticals

    6. Google Inc, USA

    7. Alphabet Inc

    8. Tsinghua University

    9. Huawei Technologies Co Ltd

    10. Google International LLC.

    What happened to the high flying universities of 2009? Harvard is in 57th place, MIT in 60th, Stanford 127th, Johns Hopkins 365th, and Tokyo in 485th.

    it seems that the torch of innovation has left the hand of American, European, and Japanese universities and research centres and has been passed to Multinational, Chinese, and American companies and research bodies, plus a few Chinese universities. I am not sure where the loyalties of the multinational institutions lie, if indeed they have any at all."

    Link: https://rankingwatch.blogspot.com/

    He also states the following:

    Basic research, innovation and advanced instruction in academic and professional fields are in serious danger across the West. Avoiding the noise of the commercial rankers, we can see a steady and general decline in scientific and academic performance. It is beginning to look as though current concerns for sustainability and equity are, in part at least, designed to cover up this decline and the rise of universities throughout Asia.

    Link: https://www.universityworldnews.com/post.php?story=20230418085845488
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    As ever, rankings are bollocks.
     
  6. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    And she called herself "Lil." But everyone knew her as Nancy.
     

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