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Is that regularly hassle in any way related to IU's accreditation? That would surprise me.

 

Just guessing here - it's probably protectionism, by the professional associations. Their members all went to Heidelberg or some prestigious place that's been around since the 14th century, and they don't like newcomers from non-famous schools. They want to preserve their dignity, their exclusivity and their large incomes. We have the same syndrome here (at least where I live - Canada.) It's usually called covering one's ass - and sometimes it's simply referred to as snobbery or prejudice.

 

Just to give you an idea how an IU degree is being perceived in Germany from my german point of view.
The level of prestige schools in Germany have are, in that order:
1. State universities
2. State "Fachhochschulen", nowadays called Universities of applied science
3. Private Universities of applied science, like IU is.

There are exceptions but IU is not one of these exceptions. For Business subjects WHU is the only private university that has a reputation which is comparable to a state university.

Just wanted to write this because in another topic I read that in most parts of the world, including Germany I guess, any degree from the US is considered to be high quality.
I coule imagine that some believe the same about german universities.

 

Not at all, in Germany -- and I think you know this, Johann. American degrees are sometimes viewed with suspicion there.

(1) US "Doctors" won't always get called "Herr / Frau Doktor" in Germany. There are MUCH stiffer rules.
(2) NA Unis are not listed in Anabin, which is RA or the Highway. That doesn't mean you can't present those degrees. You can, but acceptance may vary.
(3) US MBA? It's AACSB or the Autobahn. Keine Ausnahmen. (No exceptions.)

Here's a 2017 thread: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?threads/list-of-international-universities-accredited-by-the-german-government.51215/

Johann 666

 

Yes still have, check in China.

 

Cool! I like your forum-name!

 

The rules can be kind of strange, too. For instance, let's say that everyone who graduates with a phd in literature in Germany gets to be called "Doctor", but the US requires a third-party exam in order to get that title. If you graduate but then move to Germany before taking the exam, you CAN NOT be called "Doctor", even though you have the exact same qualifications as a German citizen who CAN be called "Doctor". You would need to return to the US to sit the exam that you never took. Then you could return to Germany and (possibly) be called "Doctor".

 

If you did your phd at a state recognised foreign university you can usually present yourself as a doctor in your email signature in Germany, but you have to disclose where you've graduated.
E.g.

Dr. Mustermann (University of Phoenix, USA).

A phd from the EU or certain USA universities can however be used without the disclosure. E.g. a PhD from Malta would be Just:

Dr. Mustermann

 

Immaterial. My point still stands. German authorities and others are do not consider ANY or nearly any, degree from US as high quality. I was replying to this:

As I said, that is a false assumption, and I proved it. You guessed wrong. And there are many situations in which Germany is pernickety about foreign Doctorates.

For example, Doctorates from NA Universities - Hmph! Those schools aren't even listed on Anabin - the German Foreign Recognition Bible. If the school isn't even recognized in Germany, how are they gonna call you "Herr Doktor?" and grant you all your Doctoral privileges - such as they are? Oh, I get it - they won't.

Treten Sie weiter auf der Stelle, Johann! Jemand könnte Sie retten. (Keep treading water, Johann! Someone might rescue you.)

 

Well, that doesn't apply to PhDs in literature. But if you replace 'PhD in literature' with 'engineering degree' and the word 'Doctor' with 'Ingenieur', then it's absolutely correct. Engineering graduates from American universities can only call themselves 'Ingenieur' in Germany if they are also licensed Professional Engineers. However, Germany has no counterpart to this professional license. Every engineering graduate of a German university automatically has the right to call himselve 'Ingenieur'. (However, the English title 'engineer' isn't regulated in Germany. That might even be one of the reasons why so many German companies use English job titles.)