Hillary Clinton Eyes 20/20 run to be POTUS

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5931169/Talk-emerges-Hillary-Clinton-plotting-2020-comeback-prepping-Trump-rematch.html

 

I'm guessing that if the Democrats select Hillary to run against Trump in 2020 she will lose again. (that is, if Trump is still in office) . . . . . . me again - that's your cue to go on another rant. Thanks.

 

I'm not at all surprised. If she doesn't win the presidency eventually, her marriage to Bill will have been for naught.

 

I agree.

 

I actually believe that regardless of her actual chances (I believe she'd win btw, even though it might be unnecessarily difficult given all the accumulated mud the haters produced), she should not subject herself to another round of abuse from deplorables and their fellow-travellers. The country can find someone almost as qualified and will have to do with that person. I hope for Joe Biden, but only because he's familiar with Ukraine file already. I will be content with any Democrat they choose to nominate. I hope it won't be Bernie.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree here.
Nevertheless, we are lambasting someone based on rumors she might do something that is her right as a US citizen. Never heard this applied to say Gingrich, or any other lame white male candidate before. Equality.

 

I think that it's pretty clear that she's looking at it.

But I doubt that she would receive the democratic nomination this election cycle. (Many democrats seemingly just want her to go away.) The party has moved decisively left in the last few years (to a loony-tunes degree in my personal opinion) so she won't have the loyalty of the activist base. Nor will she control the party organization, the primary rule-making and the DNC as she did last time. She will doubtless have stronger primary election challengers as well.

So I don't see it happening.

(It would be a gift to Trump if it did.)

 

I'm saying that calling an opponent unqualified is normal in the campaign. But that's not what we hear, do we? HRC is admonished for even daring to think to run. There's no other politician who is so hated for so little objective reason. And that person also happened to be the first major party nominee for POTUS who's female. As I said, equality.

P.S. Trump is not so much unqualified as categorically unable to do the job. No denying this at this point.

 

The reason I dislike her has zero to do with her gender and everything to do with her lack of integrity, propensity to not tell the truth, and penchant for smugly looking down on anyone "not wise enough" to vote for her. She comes across like the worst sort of underachieving but self-aggrandizing liberal arts college professor. My wife went to undergrad at such a college, and did quite well in her department where most profs were decent human beings (math and physics), but many professors there in the non-STEM disciplines were insufferably arrogant, towering monuments to pride, strutting about at their cocktail parties with self-satisfied smirks. Hillary fits the type to a tee. She isn't disliked by so many people for random or nonsensical reasons, she's disliked because of what she says and does.

That said, don't think I'm a Republican or a fan of Donald Trump, either. He comes across like the prototypical ugly American, a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing, a man who discards wives when they reach middle age and cynically trades them in on new models--he comes across like the worst sort of scheming, unethical entrepreneur who donates money to the aforementioned liberal arts college to make himself feel a little better over all the honest business people he skunked and defrauded on his way to the top. You can well imagine I didn't think too highly of the 2016 election! Ha!

 

But at least Fritz Mondale was a likable enough fellow. Maybe I'm biased because I lived many years in Minnesota; I have almost nothing but good feelings for Mondale and the Humphreys, both Hubert and Skip. They don't make politicians like that anymore, it seems, decent and with some integrity. If only Humphrey had won in '68 rather than Nixon, there wouldn't have been a hard-left McCarthy on the Dem side in '72 and wouldn't have been a two-term Nixon and Watergate with that Nixon crook using the IRS to bully political opponents, possibly the Vietnam War would've ended earlier, probably wouldn't have been a decent-but-incompetent Jimmy Carter rising to national office eight years later.

 

I'll be happy with anyone with a moral compass and a brain. All of the Replublican candidates, except for maybe Ben Carson, were more qualified than Cult 45.

 

Her IMAGE is widely disliked for things people THINK they know about her. You realise that in the phrase "vast right-wing conspiracy" the only inaccurate word, at the time, was "vast", because there indeed existed a small but very well-funded operation bent at destroying the Clintons? And that one of its soldiers was deputy campaign manager for Trump?
When people look into it, it turns out Hillary does not lie any more than a typical politician of either party, which is a surprisingly low 20% of the time and way less than Donald Trump (who is bent at setting the world record - which is alarming in itself because it trains his core in doublethink).
The Clintons are deeply flawed individuals (especially Bill, who at this point should just retire) and prone to vanity, but are smart and dedicated political leaders, when given a chance. What puts people off in Hillary is naked ambition, which is ironically a trait shared by every other POTUS candidate - it's a source of drive that propel people to run and go that far. Also, I'm not unfamiliar with liberal arts hatred, but it's deeply misinformed. Culturally-illiterate STEM and business scholars should check their pride just as much as math-phobic humanities and social science types do.

He is like an avatar of all this. Plus Russia connection, which I am sorry is real and is a reason for grave concern; hiring of Manafort and the RNC platform episode should have been enough for this, so "Steele dossier" doesn't add all that much new stuff. Plus Trump's public statements and tweets; oh so many statements and tweets... every day... should be banned on 8th Amendment grounds. Can't wait for this nightmare to end.

 

Yeah, every other Republican nominee save maybe Carson... every single democratic nominee... the stoner Libertarian nominee... and the corpse of Reagan all would have made better Presidents than the priest of Mammon we have now. Heck, Nixon was better. No Jill Stein though, please.
My current preferences for 2020 though would be Biden, followed by perhaps Harris, followed by the rest of Democratic field. Sorry but current Republican Party can be only described by the term made popular by Samantha Bee. Each and every one of them. Unless we can time-travel younger healthier version of John McCain and give him a sane running mate. Hillary would be amazing but will face a brutal campaign and a sea of haterzzz; at some point the woman should think of her own best interests.

 

It might sound harsh, but I think that Trump, Hillary, Biden, and Bernie will be way too old in 2020. We're already seeing the result of having a senile president. But, with Biden's history of saying semi-racist things, he might be able to attract some of the Midwest Democrats who voted for Trump.

 

The left are pushing for young blood. Hillary is a two time failure, Bernie is too old, and both (politically) are yesterday's news. Kamala Harris seems to be the one currently being groomed for 2020; as she is smart and she ticks multiple boxes. Her success going up against Trump will be interesting to watch.

 

She would probably be my preference if Biden wasn't Obama's point man on Ukraine who did succeed in strong-arming our POS parliament and cabinet into doing the right thing once or twice. Of course, it's not a good enough reason for just about anyone else. So yeah, Kamala 2020 (which is incidentally the name of current superhero Ms Marvel, Kamala Khan. Posters could be good). Of course, being "groomed" doesn't guarantee nomination anymore (on Republican side in 2016, two groomed candidates were Bush and Rubio).