I am looking for online 4 degree and getting sticker shock

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by MNBrant, Jul 5, 2016.

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  1. Maxwell_Smart

    Maxwell_Smart Active Member

    I don't "backpeddle", and certainly don't when there is no reason to, like here.

    I know what I said and I'm not confused about anything.

    My saying: "As I've said, I wasn't aware of any only accredited by the Board of Regents today"

    ... and I wasn't aware. So...?

    My saying: "but that number pales in comparison to those accredited by a regional accreditor alone..."

    ... is inaccurate how exactly? Most NYS state schools ARE accredited regionally only, and you know this. You also know that the number of schools accredited in tandem (Regional & NYSBOR) is moving to extinction, so what is the contention here?

    My saying: "or in tandem with the NYSBOR."

    ... was an obvious mistake since I'd already spoken about not seeing it as common.
     
  2. MNBrant

    MNBrant New Member

    Hi,
    DON'T HIJACK MY THREAD. What is this APU anyway? Should I go there or somewhere else. Time is no object though money is. Should I go to APU or AMU? Speak!

    Thanks,

    Brant
    Certified lab rat.
     
  3. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    MNBrant,

    I think you have all the information you need. If you're waiting for somebody to say "Go here!" that's not going to happen, nor should it. Where you go is a decision only you can make.
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    AMU v. APU = Gala apples v. Fuji apples
     
  5. MNBrant

    MNBrant New Member

    Actually with the information I received. I am actually thinking of going back to community college. Actually I should go get a degree in special ed. I hear there is loan forgiveness for educators plus there is a chonic shortage of staff
     
  6. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Yeah well you might want to ask yourself why that chronic shortage exists.
     
  7. sideman

    sideman Well Known Member

    I can think of two possible reasons: (1) As a special ed teacher you'll need the patience of Job and (2) the expectations of parents will sometimes be unrealistic.
     
  8. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    That's not a profession I would just pursue without careful thought and reflection. You really need to love children and love helping people. You also need A LOT more patience than the average person.
     
  9. MNBrant

    MNBrant New Member

    Hi,
    Yeah, I just ran the magic numbers again and found out I can't afford even community college. In fact I had to borrow money from someone just to pay my bills this pay period. There's no way I will find that money. I guess I will just get that loan out stretch it out as far as it will go, and then try to repay it. As far as being a special ed teacher goes, its not really that far a stretch from what I am doing now. I don't really think it takes any special skills that I don't already have. But then again I did not take the class So. See ya.

    Thanks,


    Brant
     
  10. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Here's a new article about this

    Teacher Recruitment Outlook Is Bleak - Walt Gardner's Reality Check - Education Week

    Also, I agree with LearningAddict. Teaching children, especially SpEd kids is not something that you should just fall into.
     
  11. MNBrant

    MNBrant New Member

    I am headed over to APU and the community college I was thinking of going to and dropping out. I just realized that, if I am running short between pay periods already just with living expenses, I am not likely to be able pull off college-even part time. I am looking for work am actually considering applying for a job in special ed. I have work experience that would mesh well with some kinds of programs and am capable of putting together classes.
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    It sounds like this school was created for you

    UoPeople - The world's first tuition-free Accredited Online University
     
  13. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    University of The People's next big challenge is finding a way to have some sort of challenge exam system or transfer credit system. I've been told they are looking into it.

    I'm curious as to how Nations University is able to do it and if UoP could find a way to model after that.
     
  14. MNBrant

    MNBrant New Member

    I looked at the reqs for being a special ed teacher and you really are a second class employee if you get a variance and don't have the degree. So that's out.
     
  15. Davewill

    Davewill Member

    Huh? I thought you were planning to get the degree.
     
  16. MNBrant

    MNBrant New Member

    Hi,
    I realized that not having enough money to get through some pay periods, and zeroing out the rest, might have made it difficult to self-pay a degree, so I dropped out. I am now entering a repayment plan.

    Thanks,

    Brant
     
  17. MNBrant

    MNBrant New Member

    I can't borrow from any institution public or private. I do have news from APU. They ran my transcripts from two community colleges and I only need around 68 credits to get a BA in Psychology. I don't have the money right now but am tempted. As far as online colleges go, I just made a new Linked In account and quite a few people in my company have degrees from online colleges. Just so you know.
     
  18. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    In the early 2000s a few media outlets made a sport of finding hiring managers who would say they would "never" hire people with online degrees. As you went through the article, however, you began finding that these positions were often a bit more nuanced than that. I recall one federal contractor saying they would never hire online graduates to be managers but that they could imagine hiring online graduates for non-managerial positions. So if you got hired there and you were the most amazing employee they ever saw would they refuse to promote you? What if you exceeded every expectation, everyone liked you and it caused them physical pain to think of hiring anyone for that manager's job but you?

    Personnel Management is much more nuanced than a lot of people are willing to admit. There are very few hard and fast rules and there is almost always an exception to any "never" or "always" rule you might impose. A friend of my mother is a professional fundraiser without a college degree. Ever single position she has had in her career had the requirement of a bachelor's degree. And every single time she landed in a place where they were willing to make her the exception. I wouldn't advise that to a person just entering the working world. But it illustrates that exceptions can and do exist.

    Online degrees were once novel. They were once offered only by a relatively small handful of schools that many people hadn't heard of. Now you can have an online degree from Penn State, Stanford, Drexel, Benedictine, NYU, Columbia, George Washington, William and Mary, Harvard (less one semester), Chicago and many, many other schools with unassailable reputations. The employers who now get upset with schools like the University of Phoenix likely never had a policy against the small, for-profit NA business schools that once littered the landscape and filled strip malls across the nation.

    I think it would be more interesting at this stage if you found a company where none of the employees had availed themselves of any form of distance learning. No MOOCs, no Lynda.com, nothing. Because that sounds like a pretty horrendous place to work.
     
  19. MNBrant

    MNBrant New Member

    One of my contacts from my parent company ResCare has a degree from University of Pheonix. I would say that about 80-90% of the contacts from my company have degrees from recognizable for profit online colleges.
     
  20. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    I've shut many a naysayer down by bringing up this fact. Still, never underestimate the edusnobbery, they always find a way to move the goalposts. "Oh, you earned it from NYU but you didn't physically attend? Ha Ha!" or "Oh, you earned it from Harvard but you only did one semester there physically! Your degree is invalid."

    There is no limit to the silliness.
     

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