Just put my application in to TESC!

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  1. pfelectronicstech

    pfelectronicstech New Member

    I graduated from the "Electronics technician" program at Penn Foster a few weeks ago. I want TESC in the worst way, but I have to look at other options if I can't transfer credits. The body of the TESC program is most stuff I have learned already. There is some AWESOME stuff that I haven't though. the controls systems, Robotics, Electronic instrumentation and more part I REALLY want to learn. Oh man I'm drooling to get into the part labeled "Electronics engineering technology electives" in the ASAST Electronics engineering technology program.
     
  2. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Just take one step at a time.
     
  3. RugbyMan187

    RugbyMan187 New Member

    Relax man, if they are ACE approved TESC will accept them. Now the issue is if they apply to your degree plan. If not the worst case scenario, take some CLEPS or other PF courses to complete the degree. You should be fine.
     
  4. pfelectronicstech

    pfelectronicstech New Member

    I am going to relax and get on this Wednesday. i actually went and looked at the ACE website and looked through all the PF ACE reviewed courses and there were quite a few that I have done already. As far as I can tell most fit in to the TESC program I am trying to transfer into. I think I'll be Ok, but you guys know how stressful this can be. The good new is after I get all my CLEP GE credits, PF credits and get the "free electives" out of the way I might only need 12 credits from the heart of the program to finish with TESC. In general if my prediction is correct and I only need 12 credits to graduate, how long do you think you cm complete 12 credits? Just out of curiosity of course. Thanks to everyone for all the help. I know I might have been a pain in the butt, and I apologize if I have.
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    One problem with Electronics Engineering Technology is that ACE is not sufficient.
    TESC is accredited by ABET.
    So in order to transfer Electronics classes TESC requires ABET TAC accredited classes.

    You will find that RA ABET accredited degree has higher acceptance then NA DETC degree.
    CIE-WC is a good school. I know many graduates with their degrees.
    But they are not RA or ABET accredited.

    Any way PF and CIE are real degrees, they have utility.
    You gained knowledge and can test out .

    On other side TESC may accept some non ABET classes small % so relax and see what happens.
    I think its wort getting RA ABET accredited degree even if it will require a little more work and some PF classes not transfer.

    BTW some people call TESC degrees not real. They bash DL altogether so there is always that thing, snobbery etc.
     
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  6. pfelectronicstech

    pfelectronicstech New Member

    Thanks Lerner, I have decided to relax and wait to see what TESC says about all this. I thought TESC was ABET approved, but wasn't sure because I couldn't find it on their website, I didn't look all that hard either. I know that is a HUGE deal being ABET approved, thanks for the info. CIE looks good to me, and I heard good things, they should just go get ABET and regionally accredited and put all that crap to rest. I don't why these schools that have good reps. don't do that in the first place.
     
  7. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    ABET only accredits specific degree programs -- not schools as a whole. And according to the ABET website, the only TESC degree program that they accredit is the BS in Nuclear Energy Engineering Technology.

    The TESC accreditation webpage appears to confirm this: the BS in Nuclear Energy Engineering Technology is shown as ABET-accredited, but that's the only one. TESC doesn't list any of its other degree programs as ABET-accredited.

    So unfortunately, it doesn't look like the TESC programs in Electronics Engineering Technology are ABET-accredited at this time.

    Excelsior College has ABET-accredited BS programs in Electronics Engineering Technology and Electrical Engineering Technology.
     
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  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Congratulations!

    Since this website has been active (2001), I can't recall any negative experiences posted about TESC, other than from trolls or people who made their own beds and had to lie in it.
     
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    CalDog,
    Thanks for the correction. I made an error.

    Its Excelsior College The bachelor’s degree programs in electrical engineering technology and nuclear engineering technology are accredited by the Engineering Technology Accreditation Commission of ABET. The Electrical Engineering Technology has number of concentrations, one of them is Electronics.

    And this tread is about Associate degree. so ACE should help.
    Again I was in error about ABET accredited program at TESC.
     
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  10. pfelectronicstech

    pfelectronicstech New Member

    CalDog, I just checked ABET's website, and if neither school has these programs with ABET credit my guess is it doesn't need to be.
    Bruce thank you very much for the input, I think I'm gonna love TESC. Now i have to get on with CLEP studying and exams! Oh what fun.
     
  11. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    That's correct -- in your situation, ABET accreditation is optional.

    In general, programmatic accreditation is only "required" if you are entering a field with licensing laws or other government regulations. For example, if you wanted to practice civil engineering, you would need a state Professional Engineer's license, and this would be harder (or even impossible) to obtain without an ABET-approved engineering degree. Nuclear engineering is another field with a lot of government oversight, which is probably why TESC and Excelsior both have ABET-approved programs in that field.

    But electronics technicians are unregulated and unlicensed, so there is no legal difference between an ABET and non-ABET degree. In that case, the ABET "seal of approval" is nice to have, and might impress some employers, but it's totally optional.
     
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  12. pfelectronicstech

    pfelectronicstech New Member

    I think we got to the bottom of that, thanks CalDog. If it were a full Electronics engineer degree then you would have to have ABET and I think IEEE approval. I think its IEEE? I would never think of going for a full engineer degree, too much for me!
     
  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Since we touched on this issue.
    For readers I will add the following.

    ABET's Engineering Technology Accreditation Commission (ETAC) accredits engineering technology programs at the associate's (two-year degree) level and the bachelor's (four-year degree) level.

    Many colleges and universities that have their programs accredited by ABET require transfer credit also to be accredited by ABET. I think its one of the ABE requirements.

    So in the future if a person wishes to enter such program it is easier to get transfer credit if the Associate degree program was ABET accredited.

    I know its not the case for this tread. I made an error about TESC, still its good info to have.

    I personally recommend to earn ABET accredited degree. You never know what future may hold for you.
     
  14. pfelectronicstech

    pfelectronicstech New Member

    Thanks Lerner, I think I'm OK with TESC, but I hear what you're saying. I'm gonna be interested to see what TESC says about my credits and everything. Now that I actually paid for my application don't you get an actual guidance counselor on the phone when I call, not just the generic customer service person? I thought I read that is what you get.
     
  15. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    It's better to email so that you get an advisor who specializes in your program. When you call the advisor hotline, there is a good chance you'll get someone who is clueless. Don't be surprised if you get a lady who likes to hang up on people.
     
  16. pfelectronicstech

    pfelectronicstech New Member

    I've called 3 times now and they were helpful to a certain extent, but not quite as much as I would of liked. I would like to talk to someone from the degree program though or a real guidance counselor. Is that possible or this is as good as it gets?
     
  17. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I am not sure. TESC never had the best customer service in my opinion. I sure it will be better once you get an assigned advisor.
     
  18. RugbyMan187

    RugbyMan187 New Member

    They are like that since you are not an enrolled student, they are very difficult to work with. If one only has just applied to TESC they only answer basic questions. However, ask for a guy name Chris. He helped me when I was on admission status, not enrolled. He will help you out, I think. BTW brother, I apologize when I told you to relax, I didn't mean to be rude in any way, heh. I was trying to imply that you will be fine. The worst case scenario I see is you might be missing some credits if they don't apply your credits to certain areas. However, you can CLEP, DSST, SL, PF courses to complete it, I think you will be fine honestly brother! :)

    I was on the same boat at TESC, an adviser told me I was done, and when I re looked at the academic evaluation I was missing 6 credits, they placed credits where they were not suppose to. So I had to scramble and finish the courses through CLEP. I made it just in time for graduation. I was angered and worried that I probably would have missed graduation but it all fell in time :)
     
  19. pfelectronicstech

    pfelectronicstech New Member

    Yeah honestly I think I'll be OK, but its a bit uncertain right now. In the end I would have no to blame but myself because I chose a school that is DETC not regionally accredited. I had NEVER heard of TESC before but if I did I would have taken the non-degree Electronics program there and it would have slid right into this program. That is what the program is designed to do. I will forever kick myself for that! What a dummy!
     
  20. pfelectronicstech

    pfelectronicstech New Member

    Oh and no need to apologize, I tend to worry MUCH more than I should. I understand fully what you were saying.
     

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