Why NCU over TUI for Ph.D or DBA?

Exactly, he will be gone soon!


Abner

 

Re: Re: Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

Well that's good. Some people just can't control themselves and keep repeating the same cretinous abuse.

I've already said that DL has it's place. One option I'm considering for myself is Kent State's Master of Technology DL program. The degree has no great pretentions of equivalence with a full-time Engineering Master's, and I don't want to spend the next 2~3 years solving triple integrals.

At the Bachelor's level, I agree with the 2000 Teacher's Statement (though obviously they are self-interested). Education at that level should be full-time. continuous, and residential. There are no short-cuts. There are some special case exemptions, in my view; Grantham's BSET in Electronics Technology is not bad for students who are already in the field and have access to a lab.

Re a DL PhD, I agree with Andy Borchers. The letters are the same, but a DL PhD is not the same experience - ie[/e] it is PhD-Lite - significantly inferior. Too much guilt to live with. Too many snickers to endure.

 

Well OK. Go ahead and waste your life with an laughable NCU degree.
Goodbye sucker.

 

Re: Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

You are a moron...sorry I could not come up with something a bit smarter but what can you expect from a bottom-feeder.

 

Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

Thats' OK- I've long ago concluded you're a grinning cretin.

Moderator: Is this what's we're coming to on this forum ?

 

Re: Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

Kalos - How can you expect anything different when you come on a board that is dedicated to distance learning and call people that decided to get a PhD via DL "bottom feeders"?

 

Re: Re: Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

Exactly! He is obviously in the wrong forum and doesn't even realize it. I hope the troll keeps taking his meds for delusions of grandeur, or perhaps "Delirium Tremens"? Either way, his opinions are a joke in this forum.


Abner

 

Re: Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

Kalos, your biggest problem is that you're devising a straw man.

I can't even tell you how many posts I've seen--and made--over the months and months I've been regularly posting here where we all discussed the limitations of DL learning. It's pretty much the theme of the whole site! We know full well that a DL doctorate is not likely to land you the dream job at the highest eschelons of academia.

Who's saying it is? Show me the posts.

The great majority of people who are seeking DL doctorates are not seeking them for that purpose. And if they are, I'll be the first to tell them they're delusional. I've done it right on this forum!

I and others have given you a laundry list of reasons why people seek advanced DL degrees from NA for-profits like NCU, Walden, et. al. I did it on this very thread. And the reasons are very valid.

Another problem is that you simply do not have the emotional maturity to refrain from ad hominem. You cannot stand an opinion different from your own, you have to call names. I tell you, if the "skin head" comment doesn't get you banned from this forum, then there is no justice here.

That was classless, base stuff. Lowest common denominator.

As for Nova, you'd better tell the hiring committee of my RA college, because our newly-hired president received his masters and PhD from there. I'm of the opinion that his hiring constitutes a "real world" activity.

As for the comment on graduate business school and residency requirements, I was not the one who made the "bigoted" argument you quoted, but I might well have because I agree with it whole-heartedly. You really picked the wrong fight there, because that is one field in particular that can benefit from distance studies for a PhD, being that the advanced degree pursued part time while one is working, is being pursued by one in the very experimental lab that is being studied. This makes the PhD in Management particularly suited to a distance format. My opinion on this matter is shared by the world class institutions that offer business doctorates with only minimal residencies: Aston, Manchester, Henley, Grenoble, UNISA.

And in any event, how in the world do you square your generalized comments on the inefficiency of DL with your own desire to pursue an advanced DL degree or your approval of various DL doctorate programs, such as the one at Indiana State? Can the bright line really be a one or two week a year residency?

After you have shown your true stripes with numerous fallacies and really hateful, bigoted commentary and ad hominem, I think I'm going to refrain from drinking your kool aid. I only hope the administrators see fit to show such an infantile individual as yourself the door.

 

Re: Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

He didn't distort anything, he quoted what you said in context. Please tell me how he distorted anything and what he distorted, assuming you can grasp the meaning of the word. I'm beginning to wonder.

 

Re: Re: Re: Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

Listen, "it's" means the contraction of "it" and "is". "It's" does not mean the possessive of "it". Why can't people who claim to have some intellect and education get this straight?

 

Re: Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

This is getting funny, the guy calls people "skinheads", then plays the swooning Victorian lady when someone calls him a "moron" in response.

I mean this seriously: can this be for real, folks?

You really think there's someone so mind-numbingly clueless that they can't see the absurdity of it all? This guy is just having fun with us. He can't possibly think he makes sense or follows any standard of coherence or logic.

 

Wait a minute. It was me who made the comment that Kalos called "ignorant" and "bigoted"! Man I thought those comments were particularly pithy and cut with a razor's edge. Now I know why, they were mine of over a year ago!

Uh, Kalos--if you haven't already been banned--would you care to tell me what about me is "ignorant" of PhD studies such that I could not be expected to understand something of their rigor? Do you happen to know me personally and have proof that I have never experienced or seen it first hand?

Would you also care to tell me what is wrong with being "bigoted" towards smug, wine-sipping intellectuals who think that one outside their academies cannot possibly learn as much as they? I wear that bigotry tag like a badge of honor.

And while you're at it--if you're still able and are still permitted on this forum--would you care to tell me what's wrong with my pointing out the absurdity of the opinion that working in business disqualifies one from studying business at the terminal degree level? And while you're working up that response, would you care to square your opinion that I'm a "cretin", "ignorant" and "bigoted" on this matter with the cold clear fact that some of the most prestigious universities in the world seem to agree with me--the ones from England that I mentioned in the prior post--some of whom rank ahead of Duke (which thinks DL can work for graduate biz work, BTW), Carnegie-Mellon, Georgetown, Rice, and UT-Austin?

If these luminaries agree with my point by going to the trouble of establishing precisely the program I described last year, then isn't your beef with them, not me? Why don't you write their deans and tell them they're idiots or cretins for thinking it can be done primarily outside the ivory towers? But of course, who'd ever think you could study business in a business environment?

OK, folks, how much you want to bet the guy doesn't even address the issues I brought up? His modus operandi: if you prove him wrong, if you cut him to the quick, he calls you names and ignores everything you said. Or, in the alternative, he utterly misstates your argument (he'll probably say my post proves I think California Coastal is superior to Harvard) and attacks that.

 

Re: Re: Drinking the PhD-Lite Kool-Aid

Trolls are insecure people who often feel inferior to others. These people are often graduates from state approved schools and envious of those pursuing real accredited degrees.

 

Keep going....

Keep it going here guys, but not too much longer ok. My bag of popcorn is almost empty.....Oh yeah and, ah, don't feed the troll!!

 

I know I know I know.

I was the one who said it over and over. I was Mr. Sanctimonious. "Don't feed the troll" I said. I was so far above it all, setting you fellers straight. And now look at me, way past my bedtime--and I have to head in to work in the morning!--typing away, feeding the troll.

I'm a walking, talking bundle of hypocrisy. I admit it!

 

Ding-dong, the troll is dead!

And, with that, I'm going to close this thread.