Excelsior - Now To Accept Na Transfer Credit To The Ba Programs!!!

Graduate Latin American Students

RFValve,

Again Delta, you are defending Admission of Latin American students in RA American and Canadian universities.

This is the forum for another section.

My point is and continues to be : IF GRADUATES OF SUBFINANCED Latin American STATE Universities with deplorable libraries and labs are accepted in RA and Canadian universities WHY NOT ACCEPT AS WELL graduates of DETC NA universities who use excellent textbooks and have access to graduate American and Canadian professors ?

Delta was questioning the idea of accepting DETC or DETC + ACE degrees or courses as acceptable to RA universities. I wanted to compare that to Latin American STATE universities.

Let us not wander into comparison of some PRIVATE well-financed Latin American universities.

 

Re: Re: Impressive list!

It seems to be unique to the 21st Century. In the 20th Century, it was much less common. My local state university and community college still will not touch NA with a 10 foot pole.

 

Re: Graduate Latin American Students

In the Canadian context, graduates of DETC schools might or not be accepted to graduate school based on merits. If we get a DETC graduate with a GMAT of 650 and good work experience, the graduate will be most likely be accepted for MBA study.

If a student is rejected based on the DETC degree, he can always negotiate admission based on results as an independent student.

The same happens with graduates of Latin America or any foreign school that we don't know. The student can always negotiate admission based on performance.

Graduate school admission is always negotiable. As a matter of fact, we don't have in the calendar any RA requirement for admission to graduate school for american degrees. The calendar only specifies "recognized school" so the student can always argue that NA is recognized.

I'm pretty sure that in the US is the same thing. A student can always negotiate admission based on GMAT, GRE or any standard exam.

 

Re: Re: Graduate Latin American Students

Here you have three admission requirements to business schools in Canada. None of them require RA degrees from the US and only use the word "recognized". Recognized leaves room to NA accredited degrees in my opinion.

http://mba.schulich.yorku.ca/ssb-extra/mba.nsf/allwebdocuments/admission+information
http://business.queensu.ca/mbast/application_requirements.htm
http://www.ivey.uwo.ca/mba/admissions/undergrad.htm

 

I spoke to Excelsior today and they said they do not accept NA credits.

 

I was told the same thing early last week when I called Excelsior about another issue on behalf of my wife. I then called back later in the week and questioned the new statement of credit acceptance policy that was added to their website. I was told by the admissions office that their policy is changing July 1, 2006. They WILL be accepting NA credit after that date, the question, according to the admissions office, is how the NA transfer credit will transfer, not if. I was told that a clarification and tweaking of the new policy was being discussed with the Dean of Admission the President of the University and that the new policy would be posted after July 1. I was also told that I was the first person to call and question the new statement that had been added to the website regarding NA transfer credit, and that most admissions officers, including the one I spoke with, had not yet had the policy clarified to them.

Take a look at the website...the policy is posted. They just don't know how it will be implemented yet. The following is taken directly from the Excelsior Admissions page:

"Excelsior College accepts credit from accredited degree-granting institutions in the United States. These institutions must be approved by the U.S. Department of Education and hold either profesisonal or national accreditation, as verified by the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA)."

 

Latin American STATE universities

RFValve,

Thank you for clarifying the point with illustrations of three quality Canadian universities and their requirements for graduate studies.

I fully agree with you and I am really sorry for the misunderstanding.

SteveFoerster, you mention something about your wife's nephew or cousin; well, good for him to accept sub-standard lab facilities and study in Cuba.

As to doing research on the Internet for non-lab studies, it requires from spanish-speaking Latin American students to read in English at a very good level, which I am not sure is common and secondly it also requires access to computers and Internet for research , such access is very controlled in Cuba for obvious reasons . Not all Cubans do have access to Internet .

I would love to hear from your wife's cousin 2 years from now the result of his foray in Cuban university studies in Geology.

 

Thanks-

 

My apparent disdain

SteveFoerster,

As you said yourself , my disdain is only apparent ! I am Canadian and so I have no problem to go and visit Cuba and I have done so at least 5 times .

I won't tell you which University in Cuba but Cuba is so short of textbooks even for some of his professors that a professor of Mechanical Engineering in a major city in Cuba asked me to photocopy a basic textbook of innovative Mathematics for his field which retails on Amazon for 120 dollars.

This fellow has a Ph.D. and is Cuban. I did it for charity and counting postage and everything my cost was 60 dollars to send it to him.

Anyway, you have not answered my two main points , SteveFoerster, : Internet access is controlled in Cuba, can you explain how Cuban students can document themselves by going on the Internet and the second point : how many Cuban students suppose they have High Speed Internet access to the Internet , how many can read and understand academic english well to do research ?

Can you answer these 2 points ?

 

Studying in Cuba and Cuban students

SteveFoerster,

I will tell you since as you said you misplaced your Statistics book.

In Castro's Cuba , your wife'cousin being a foreigner ( I suppose a Trinidadian ) can go to Internet services for foreigner ( providing he can pay 2 to 5 dollars for an hour ). Cuban born students do not have neither the money generally nor the RIGHT to buy Internet services.

I have an acquaintance in Cuba, a Cuban , professor of Maths at a major university in Cuba and he does not have access to the Internet .

How can a Cuban student do research even in spanish language Web sites if he is not allowed to surf ? Can you answer that question , SteveFoerster ?

You said that inability for University professors in the developing world to buy 120 dollars textbooks is common ; if it is common, how can they in turn pass new information to their students or even updating their knowledge ? What does that say about their research and teaching ?

 

Re: Studying in Cuba and Cuban students

It says that there might be some opportunity for an entrepreneurially inclined bilingual individual to do inexpensive Spanish-language translations of academic textbooks for Latin American professors and students.

 

school now RA accredited, question

my former school has acquired regional accreditation, they only had national accreditation before so excelsior would not accept the credits under the old policy.

The admissions person I talked to today first says that the courses would only be considered if those courses had been taken when the school was regionally accredited. Meaning they will not be taken since at the time they were only nationally accredited. She pulled up my info & says that my counselor will review those courses when I become a enrolled student.
Sounds to me like there is inconsistency in her statements.

My plan is to test out most credits before I enroll so that I will only be enrolled for one year. saving costs ................

CAn anyone verify this for me? That re-eval can only be done upon full enrollment.


I know there is this new policy that came into effect about NA credits but I was hoping to use the RA accreditation advantage. HELP.

 

Re: school now RA accredited, question

The admissions office is correct. Just because the school you attended is now RA, they are not considered RA for transfer credit since they were NA at the time the credits were earned. It sounds like you may have to go through the formal process for NA credit transfer. What school did you attend?

Pug

 

Any update on how EC will accept NA credits?

 

I've been wondering how Randell1234 made out with his transfer of CCU credits to EC - How about it Randell??

 

Anyone heard anything?