Why a non-RA school?

I disagree with you that universities should be free to accept or deny credits from whomever they choose. The language in the bill would never have forced RA universities to accept all NA credits, but it would have required them to give more reason and justification for the denial of credit transfer from schools with recognized accreditation. As stated, AACRAO agreed with the CHEA/HETA policy, but when Congress was going to make it law they lobbied against it making untrue claims of forcing RA schools to automatically accept NA credits. This policy requires more extensive work by the schools that denies credits and it's much easier to put a blanket statement of "RA only need apply" and not do the proper research in seeing what credits apply and which ones don't. All I'm saying is RA schools need to give NA schools a fair evaluation.

These schools tap into Title IV federal funding for student tuition and is paid for by the tax payers. I agree that every class of Algebra taken different school may vary, but they should not deny the credits solely on the accreditor that accredits the school, so long as the school is accredited by a recognized accreditor. Again, it's about fairly evaluating the transfer credits. The regional need to start realizing there is more than just them in the accreditation arena.

I commend you on lobbying against Southeastern University and having them change their policy. There should be more like you doing this.

 

I forgot to make my point regarding the federal funding in that the bill's language regarding transfer credits not only required RA schools to give NA schools a fair evaluation, but it also was geared towards millions of students (and dollars) that were being spent on repeating unecessary classes already taken at an NA school. Why make someone retake a history class if the course work and requirements were the same between RA and NA? This would be a waste of the student(s) time and a waste of tax dollar money. I keep going back to the same argument, give the nationally accredited school a fair and unbias evaluation.

 

Why a non-RA school ?

Why not Harvard ?

Why not MIT ?

Why not UCLA ?

Why not .........?

Why I am not rich ?

Money, Money, Money,.... it's richmen world

 

You and Steve both make good points. With more and more schools accepting NA credits, I predict this whole NA RA discussion will become a thing of the past. My personal feeling is employers mainly want to verify whether a degree is recognized by a reliable source. Of course, I know NA degrees currently have some limitations, but then, some RA degrees have limitations as well. There are still some old schoolers who look down on distance education, RA or NA, period.

If an NA degree suits an individuals needs, great. I say go for it. I personally have an RA AA, and I am in the end stages of finishing up a B.S. in Management from California Coast University.

Just my two centavos!

Good evening gentleman.
Abner

 

But that's the point, I've found RA schools as cheap or cheaper than non-RA schools, so money doesn't really seem to be a primary factor.

 

Hello,

I am looking for Doctorate studies in Business Administration / Financial Management. Please help me to find RA schools as cheap or cheaper than non-RA schools. (I can find only NCU, but the school fee of NCU is expensive than so many non-RA schools which also offer DBA/PhD.)

Thank a lot

Anthony

 

I'm sorry, but you'll have to do your own research in that area, I'm afraid. Right now I'm focused on my own associate degree!

 

Before I got my NA A.S. degree (Ashworth College) I called and wrote to many RA schools and asked them "What would be the total cost for an Associates Degree in XYZ?" None of the costs given were anything remotely close to what my degree cost. Same for the B.S. I am currently working on at CCU. I may look into an RA Masters program but it will depend heavily on cost.

I did not want to CLEP out of any classes. I couldn't find a degree for anywhere near that price from an RA school without CLEPing out of some of the classes.

 

I'd be interested to know more. With associates degrees at RA schools for as little as $40 per credit (roughly $2,400 for an associate degree), I'd be interested in what sort of prices you encountered.

 

What school has it for that price? Are books included? I (actually my employer) paid about $3500 for my A.S. degree and all books and materials were included.

 

Faxinator

I'm calling you out.

what $40 Sh credit online RA school are you talking about ??


and don't give me do your on research !

 

None!

There is no school online that offers a full program for that price. There are however two exceptions to that rule. The first being that if you are a resident of California you will be able to pay the in state tuition rate for their CC system. For California that is nearly free and don't quote me, but last time I checked is around $19 a sem. hour. So, feasibly you could, via distance, go to any CC in California if you were a resident for small $. But that is the only case, here in Massachusetts, whether you do by distance or B&M and if you are a resident, a CC class will cost you $400 for tuition not including books. So, that equals not cheap! The second exception is that there are two schools that I know of that are realtively cheap by class and have been discussed here , but they do not offer a full program online as of yet. The two schools are Clovis CC and San Juan CC both in New Mexico. The first will run you $169 for a 3 sem. hour class + books and the latter, I think $109 + books. Both of these schools have been discussed here before along with some other cheap alternatives.

San Juan

Clovis

 

Actually, that's cheap as well. Regarding books, I guess that depends on the program. I talking solely about tuition costs, but of course the expense of books needs to be figured into the equation, too.

 

http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24373&highlight=%2435

But Mighty_Tiki's point about not offering a full program is poignant. I was only thinking about the per-unit cost and not fully considering whether or not you can complete the degree within the confines of that per-credit cost structure.

 

So price is a factor when it comes to NA/RA

If your looking to to take a couple classes for transfer to your local Community College and need a RA school, yeah schools such as San Juan are good options

But If your looking for a full degree program most NA schools are far less expensive than RA schools.

Also NA schools such as Ashworth, CCU & PennFoster are structured programs. Unlink most RA programs where you have to scramble to take indivual course that meet there degree requirments

 

And I guess you could include price from another angle as well: my employer won't pay for a degree like Ashworth's, but they will pay for my degree at St. Petersburg College and later for my bachelor's.

 

Mighty_Tiki,


I'm also from Massachusetts. I think the Quinsigamond Community College has the lowest tuition cost in the state.

$120 per credit hour.

 

Faxinator

Your orignal question was why a non-ra school.

Theres many reasons and yes cost is a factor not everyones situation is the same as yours .

My employer will reimburse me as long as the school is accredit RA or NA but I have to pay for everything up front

I think Pubbelly siad it best

1) Sometimes NA schools are far less expensive than RA schools, though not always

2) Sometimes an NA is all that is necessary

3) Sometimes a degree is strictly for personal satisfaction/enrichment, so the NA/RA status is unimportant.

4) Sometimes the NA school may offer something the RA school do not

 

Why so outrageously expensive? That's a ridiculous amount to pay per credit.