TUI says they are WASC Accredited

I received this from TUI today. In response, I asked them when their website would be updated to reflect this...... BUT CONGRATS TO TUI!!!!!!!!!!

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Subj: Re: Accreditation
Date: 3/3/2005 1:41:52 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: InfoCBA <[email protected]>
Sent from the Internet (Details)

We are accredited by WASC.

Thanks,

PRW


(my e-mail removed) wrote:

>Do you have any status about the WASC accreditation for your business programs?

 

That's interesting that they are providing this information while WASC has not yet made it public. I believe them since I have received similar information from a senior faculty member. I'm curious as to why they would not make it a priority to immediately update their web site.

Thanks, Han, for your persistent effort in getting the facts.

 

Just got this email from TUI

Dear TUI Students :

I am pleased to announce that Touro University International (TUI) is now accredited by the Accrediting Commission for Senior Colleges and Universities of the Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC).

Previously, TUI was included by Middle States Association Commission on Higher Education (MSACHE) within the scope of accreditation of Touro College (NY). During their last reaccredidation review, MSACHE had determined that TUI is a separately accreditable institution.

At its meeting on February 17-18, 2005, WASC approved the transfer of TUI accreditation from MSACHE to WASC.

We are very proud that TUI is now separately accredited by WASC. We view the separate accreditation as a significant milestone in the educational development of TUI.

Best regards,


Dr. Yoram Neumann

Provost and CEO

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I am a TUI PhD student- as well as being somewhat relieved.

 

Re: Re: TUI says they are WASC Accredited

Hi. I just received notification of same via my TUI student email account. While the transfer to WASC was expected, I'm glad to hear that those who spread rumors to the contrary will be posting apologies and descriptions how/why they were wrong about TUI... ;-)

Best wishes,

Dave

 

This is indeed great news. Congratulations to current and former TUI students. I wish this university the best. As far as I know it is one of those few non for profit at the PhD level which operate in the US. I guess this will open the way for other universities in the West to expand their programs since AFAIK this is the first time WASC accredites an entirely "online university".


Regards

 

WASC accredits Western Governors which is an entirely online university. So this is not the first time.

 

Who said they wouldn't get it?

I think you have it reversed about whom should apologize. Among all the hype from many, I don't really remember anyone saying Touro would not get accredited. As I recall, everyone said wait and see before jumping in. Pretty common sense advice when someone is making a decision of that magnitude. The vapid TUI defenders took this personal and jumped in ad nauseum attacking anyone who disgreed with them. It was, quite frankly, a little tedious.

I just looked at Touro's PhD program and I see major changes. There is a comp and and a dissertation defense before the committee. If any of this is in person (and somone without broadband access would have a very hard time doing the conferences with the profs and other students) the degree is no longer 100% distance, which is pretty much what everyone expected. If it is no longer 100% distance learning (something not claimed on their web site) that is an important consideration for people on this board.

Sign me,
Someone who actually has a TUI degree to defend
DTechBA

 

Re: Who said they wouldn't get it?

I seem to recall that the advice was to wait on TUI indefinitely until the transfer was complete. If you dispensed inaccurate advice about TUI then you were wrong to suggest all those folks should put their education on hold, and if you were wrong, then you should apologize. If you were right about TUI, then why bother to post on this subject? Perhaps it wasn't stupid advice but it was wrong to say that TUI might not get transferred WASC. Wasn't it?

A thought,

Dave

 

OK. So what's up with Touro University California in Vallejo?

http://www.tumi.edu/

If Touro University California got accredited without any candidacy or anything, then I assume that this more ambitious operation probably did as well.

And just to complicate matters, there's Touro University Nevada:

http://www.tucom.edu/nv/tunv.html

The details of all this will be interesting.

Are all the California units (including Nevada?) under one new WASC accreditation, or are they separately accredited?

What are these units, exactly? They are something less than separate universities, but they are considerably more than remote site programs. So how much individuality do they actually have?

I'd guess that New York retains more responsibility than I thought they would, because the speed of this "transfer" suggests that the California units probably aren't being given any significant new administrative functions.

And obviously there's the question of required meetings in the doctoral programs. To my knowledge WASC has never before in its history accredited a 100% DL doctoral program. Conceivably this may be their very first, but I'd kind of like to see what the details look like.

 

As mentioned on numerous occasions... Touro University International is a remarkable educational and research institution with GREAT potential. They shaped up very fast to accommodate the phenomenal expansion and now successfully received (transferred to) the rigorous WASC accreditation in RECORD TIME!

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL TUI STUDENTS ON THIS BOARD!!!!!!!!!!! You should all be very proud of this achievement.

Eli

 

Western Governor's U is accredited by Northwest Assoc of Schools and Colleges NOT WASC. So TUI is the first online school accredited by
WASC.

Eli

 

Re: Who said they wouldn't get it?

The least you could do is congratulate your Alma Mater. Is it so difficult?

You repeatedly indicated that WASC would require TUI to have residency portion to their Ph.D. and that was your opinion. Well, you were wrong. At least admit this part. As for the oral defense. I always encouraged TUI to request physical presence because it gives meaning to the event and the committee recognition to the Ph.D. candidate after years of hard work. FYI many students are voluntarily sitting on campus to conduct their final oral defense. Does this categorize TUI as having residency portion? Absolutely not.

Eli

 

Re: Who said they wouldn't get it?

Allow me to say DTechBA that the least you could do is congratulate your Alma Mater. Is it so difficult to get it out? Come on be a sport ;-)

On another matter, you repeatedly indicated that WASC would require TUI to have residency portion to their Ph.D. and that was your opinion. Well, you were wrong. At least admit this part.

As for the oral defense. I do not know whether physical presence is compulsory now but I know that many students encouraged the physical presence because it gives meaning to the event and the committee's recognition to the Ph.D. candidate after years of hard work.

FYI many students were voluntarily travelling on campus to conduct their final oral defense with their families.

In short, I hope they make it compulsory. Does this categorize TUI as having a residency portion? Absolutely not.

Eli

 

Re: Re: Who said they wouldn't get it?

Duplicate threads
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Sorry.. my first thread was incomplete.

Eli

 

Correction:

I examined their site and found the following... I quote:

"WGU is Regionally Accredited by Four Commissions. Western Governors University is the only university to receive regional accreditation from four regional accrediting commissions at the same time. (Regional accreditation is considered the highest type of accreditation.) WGU's accreditation has been approved by the following four commissions:

* The Commission on Colleges and Universities of the Northwest Association of Schools and of Colleges and Universities (considered WGU's "home" commission)
* The Higher Learning Commission of the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools
* The Accrediting Commission for Community and Junior Colleges of the Western Association of Schools and Colleges
* The Accrediting Commission for Senior Colleges and Universities of the Western Association of Schools and Colleges"

Eli

 

Hi, Eli, the most important point is that TUI appears to be the first fully distance, *PhD granting* institution acredited by WASC. If that´s finally the case, TUI has opened the way for others. It will be interesting to see the developments this news brings. I am sure other universities located in that area may be interested to explore this option.


Regards

 

I am very relieved for TUI students and alumni. I am also very surprised that (a) WASC accredited them without candidacy and (b) that there is no residency requirement for the Ph.D. Wow.

In my opinion, being separately accredited by WASC is a superior position than the slightly "back door" approach with Touro College and Middle States.

TUI's success with WASC bodes well for the entire field.

 

First of All

Well, since you are all seemingly basing your opinions on a very simple message, find out this information:

a. Were ALL of Touro's units in the WASC area accredited? Since the Touro University-California is not a distance learning school, you no longer have a 100% distance learning institution. Thus, the claim that WASC has for the first time accredited a 100% institution is not valid. Has TUI, instead of being a branch campus of Touro College, become a branch or college of Touru University - California?

b. I keep hearing that the PhD is 100% distance but I notice their site says in person defenses for the Comp and dissertation. What does this mean? Someone should explain that. Again, Joe/Jane student in rural America without access to broadband may not be able to participate in the required video conferences for the class portion of the program. If he/she were unable to access satellite (not everyone can) they would be out of luck.

c. Touro university is a school that handled the whole situation very poorly. They kept everyone, including their students and alumni, in the dark. I will not congratulate them now that it worked out. They should apologize to us, the ones who keep them in business, for their evasiveness.

d. Apologize for telling someone to wait to enroll in a program until an accreditation issue is worked out? Heck no, it is in fact what any RESPONSIBLE person would advise their fellow man.

 

I agree with DTechBA. I admire him for his courage in standing up to the jabbering shills.

On the other hand, as JLV points out, this is exciting news for DL in general and I look forward to seeing what this precedent may lead to.

 

On a side note

As an alum of Touro, I think it would be a good thing if all of Touro's west coast entities were lumped into a group and called Touro University. Then the components would be something like Touro University - California, Touro University - Nevada or Touro University - International. I have never liked the Touro University International name.

WASC accreditation could be the best thing that ever happened to the program if it is handled right.

Frankly, I think it would actually benefit Touro's image if the PhD program did actually dump the 100% distance option. One or two trips to California are not that difficult to manage in order to receive a PhD......