Experts Say GOP House Takeover Would’ve Been Impossible Without Gerrymandering

Navalny has coined a viral nickname for russia's ruling "United russia" party: the "Party of Crooks and Thieves". Seeing how the GOP only wins when it cheats, maybe let's start calling it the Party of Crooks and Thieves. At least until they officially call themselves "the regional office of the United russia Party in Marolargovskiy Federal District".


https://truthout.org/articles/experts-say-gop-house-takeover-wouldve-been-impossible-without-gerrymandering/

 

Where is the laughing emoji. Sounds ridiculous, conspiratorial, etc. Wackos.

 

Forget how it sounds. Is it true? Would the PCC-USA have won the House without gerrymandering?

 

Could the Democratic Party have got anywhere with their performance, lying and semi senile President without their surrogates in the media helping pump narratives and fear mongering? I could count on for the last few months or more leading up to the election that as I was at the gym they would be pounding Trump, running Trump's picture (not just Jan 6) but over a host of other things.

The kinds of things Biden says would have been ridiculed in media had it been Trump (and I am no Trump supporter).

Democrats are their own special brand of manipulative, gaslighting, and crazy. Themselves busily undermining democracy.

 

I take it as your answer. No, Party of Crooks and Thieves USA would not have regained (not yet, but most likely) control of the House of Representatives save for the partisan gerrymandering.

And, I mean, cmon. Drumpf LOVES it when the media repeats this name. And he is, despite of his confirmed status as a big fat loser, a presumptive 2024 nominee from Crooks&Thieves. That is what makes him, well, "newsworthy".

 

Did the gerrymandering make a difference, or did it not? Again, forget whether it's "silly". What is the truth?

 

Don't move goalposts, Steve. In House races on Tuesday. Did gerrymandering make a difference? Or did gerrymandering not make a difference? I know that Virginia races are close to your heart, as a long-term foe of public schooling in this country, but this is completely! off topic in this thread.

 

Oh no, cocky is the last thing they should be. Not against the crooks and thieves.

Virginia was won in big part on the strength of the phoney moral panics aimed at public schooling (maybe calling the GOP a "Party of Crooks and Liars" would fit better, but I am way less famous than Navalny and his meme is so catchy, so...). And correct me if I'm wrong, but you are no friend of public schools, and that specific brand of culture war stuff is designed to enthrall among others the likes of you, so I thought I could bring that up.

Having said that, it seems that Dark Brandon did good. Again. Maybe people are wrong constantly underestimating him.

 

Fair enough. Except, Dems wildly outperformed both expectations AND historical norms, so... maybe, also not fair?

Substantially, though. Did the GOPniks just gain power largely through cheaty electoral maps? It's a yes or no question.

 

Can you gain an advantage through gerrymandering, yes.

Can you gain an advantage with mail-in voting and extending voting, yes.

One theory is the Dems outperformed because of the abortion issue. Some extremists on the Republican side want to ban abortion or limit abortion to 6 weeks. (heartbeat law)

If both sides could get together and do find some sort of equilibrium something similar to Flordia with the abortion law set at 15 weeks, then both sides would still be unhappy but at least not be protesting.

 

Which they did. And would have lost otherwise. Hence, Party of Crooks and Thieves.

Neither of which is "cheating". And wasn't shown to favor any particular side, until the PCT politicized the issue.

LOL, "theory". Of course, the Democratic Party outperformed in part on the abortion issue. This is called "having better policy positions".

Or, and stay with me on this: mainstream Democratic Party could keep standing on their position, which as we just noted is more popular with the voters. Crooks and Thieves will, of course, continue to crook and thieve. As they do in Florida, one of the most successful examples of gerrymandering.

I watched a great video about Hungary the other day. There, a featured CPAC speaker Viktor Orban won one election (due to the incumbents completely screwing the pooch and getting caught on a hot mike) and then seized control of elections and the press - creating a one-party system on a platform of antisemitism, homophobia, and fear of migrants. You know, similar to Florida (a state I love dearly and will move there very soon - despite the politics).

 

Yes there were some 7 house seats that flipped red because of aggressive gerrymandering. I agree that gerrymandering is anti democratic. However, courts have unfortunately generally ruled that it is only illegal or unconstitutional when it disenfranchises a minority race. At least that is my understanding. There needs to be an updated federal voting rights act passed that does away with gerrymandering. I doubt we'll see that in my lifetime but I hope we do see it eventually.

 

Here are some more election deniers on CNN.

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1590784043112890368

 

Was anything she said not true?

Dems seem to be struggling in FL, and lots of it is their own doing. But DeSatans is not trying to be the Chief of Crooks and Thieves by NOT pulling all the stops in gerrymandering and vote suppression.

 

False, she never said that DeSantis didn't win. She simply asserted that he won "bigly" because of the reasons she listed. All the things she listed were true. What you could possibly disagree with is that those things she listed didn't impact the vote. I would disagree with you but we can't know how much it really impacted the vote.