Well? Will he or won't he?

Run in 2024 of course. I think he will and that he will be nominated. Too early to tell but that's what makes politics so much fun!

 

He'll run because there is a horde out there demanding it. And he cannot ignore "his people."

 

If he does he will probably lose. Normally I would be thrilled if a Republican candidate that would probably lose the general election would run. This is a rare exception though. Even if he does lose the general election the damage he will do to our democracy will be difficult to recover from. Then the danger that he wins might mean the end of American democracy altogether. Either way we are in trouble, I believe.

 

I contend that it is not him that is doing it. Rather, it is his followers. They were an angry force, bubbling just under the surface. Obama set them free (see Party, Tea), but they wandered, lost, until Trump came along and began saying the truly awful things--the things they felt and believed--out loud. That gave them permission, purpose, and direction. They still want him, but they no longer need him since the entire party has taken up the mantle. Any fascist-thinking White supremacist will do now.

Trump as a candidate should have been dismissed in shame the very first time he uttered something really disgusting. Instead, he shocked everyone--his primary opponents especially--by growing and growing in power...and votes. All the way to the nomination. Nor did it do in his bid for the presidency. Why? Because there are a lot of Americans who want it. Trump didn't do it. He exposed it. He showed us that the America we thought we lived in was a conjuring and a foolie, that the real America was someplace so much more dark.

 

Regarding the racist wing of the Republican party, I completely agree. Regarding Obama, I'd characterize it as Obama crystalized, boosted and accelerated the white supremacy movement in the Republican party. Trump obviously was planning on something like the January 6 insurrection when he told the Proud Boys to "Stand down and stand by" on national TV during the debate.

This Trump attack on democracy though, I attribute to Trump.

 

Against whom he maybe running?

 

The Democratic nominee, of course.

 

I sure hope so
Any one wants to speculate who that nominee will be?

 

There is no reason to expect it to be anyone but the incumbent. The last incumbent to decline to run was LBJ in '68, a very long time ago. Before him? Polk, Buchanan, Hayes, Coolidge, and Truman.

Johnson, Coolidge, and Truman had served more than one term already. Only Polk, Buchanan, and Hayes declined to run after a full first term.

There is no reason to believe that Biden will decline to run in 2024, and if he does he will be the nominee.

This is a nothing-burger.

 

I thought President Biden may retire after 2024, but then remember my wife's grandfather who was a very active 98 years young when he passed away.
When he was in late 70s early 80s he played piano volunteering in elderly care facilities and we used to play ping pong etc etc.

 

Biden may not run. My best guess though is that he probably will.

 

No idea. The fanaticism of his personality cult and grass roots support is staggering and his still clearly controls the GOP and affiliated political machines. But I don’t see the historical GOP power brokers supporting him again. The draw of being able to self-deal with a presidential campaign war chest though will also be hard pressed for him to resist. I suppose it will all depend on how the court cases go, if he maintains his grip on the GOP for another year, and what advisors he’s keeping near him. If he has ones that are not blowing smoke, I can see him bowing out ‘as a winner’ to avoid any rick of a loss, in his view of his legacy.

 

They've never supported him. They tolerated him at first when they realized they'd lost control of the party as he cruised to the nomination. Then they went along with him right over the cliff, thinking that protecting him was the same thing as protecting the Republican Party. (They might have been right at that juncture.)

If he decides to run again, I just do see how they have any choice but to go along. And if he doesn't, the only kind of person who can satisfy his base--which is now the party's base--is someone of his ilk. They will accept nothing less.

I expect the GOP to take back one or even both houses of Congress in 2022, even with Democratic candidates amassing significantly more votes. I also expect them to lose the presidential race in 2024 quite badly. This will set up a huge battle royale, as the Republicans in Congress attempt to overturn the electoral results of a Democrat's win in 2024.

It would be nice, you know, if majority ruled. But this particular, empowered minority, is having none of that.

 

Fox news attacking President Biden being forgetful and unhealthy?

 

I think for 2022 elections the voters will express their satisfaction or dissatisfaction with elected officials.
If it was held today I think in Iowa for example a pole shows:

Just 31 percent of Iowa residents approve of the president’s job performance, dropping below former President Trump’s lowest rating in the same poll (35 percent in December 2017). Meanwhile, 62 percent of respondents to the latest Iowa poll said they disapproved of Biden’s performance.

The approval rating is down from the June Iowa Poll, when 43 percent of respondents approved of Biden while 52 percent disapproved.

But things can change, still plenty of time till 2o22 elections.
I don't think Republicans will overturn ethical elections results.
Courts will not let any unconstitutional or unsupported by real evidence challenges to elections results pass. Just like in 2020.

 

The current state of the GOP...

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/09/21/why-sane-republicans-are-self-deporting-themselves-513445

 

Great article I'll just note that Politico is rated High accuracy by Mediabiasfactcheck.com. It would be best for both the GOP and the the country if Donald Trump would just finally be sent to jail where he belongs.

 

There is now a recently released memo from the Trump campaign that clearly states they knew at the time that claims of election fraud were bogus. It would be nice if someone here read it.

 

Of course, the question about Trump is largely moot. Yes, it matters because his candidacy will almost certainly doom the Republican effort to retake the White House. But it's moot because that party now has no choice but to nominate someone just like him. Their voters demand it.

Trump is an outcome of that phenomenon, not its source. He played the role of catalyst by saying out loud what had only been whispered in the past. But he tapped into a pre-existing condition, rather than creating it.