University of London LLB

Well, you are already familiar with the U of London examination system. At least you shouldn't be nervous about knowing what to write!

I was figuring to do the same. Crim law and probably Admiralty. Actually, though, Law of the EU could be a better choice since it deals in part with the rights of individual citizens against the member governments...

Where can you find a suitable advisor for the essay?

Nosborne, JD

 

Well, I sent in my registration form this past week! So... I guess there's no turning back now! Any word on how long it usually takes to receive course materials from UOL?

Worthingco: How are you enjoying the program so far?

 

Hey Homer,

I like that headline a lot better, BUT I guess I need to get to work on this program, or all I'd ever be able to open would be a diploma mill! (Just kidding I'm not interested in that)

 

Hi Dude

Congrats on your decision to study law at U of L.

The courses through this university are very challenging. It will take about 6 weeks or so to find out if you've been accepted. Once you receive your "offer letter" it will take about a month or so to receive your course materials. I have to say that I'm quite impressed with the study guides, textbooks & other learning materials.

Its a long road ahead but well worth the effort. U of L has a long-standing international reputation for excellence in academia.

The best of luck to you with respect to your application and anticipated enrollment!

 

Hi Worthingco

Actually, I already submitted my application a couple of months ago, and was accepted last month. So far so good... I just sent in my enrollment form a short while ago and am waiting on my course materials. What was included with the course materials? I'm very anxious to be receiving them in the near future.

 

For the UOL LLM program, I think you have to find your own suitable academic advisor to help you with the essay and propose it to the department. I'm not really sure how it all works, but I imagine that information will become more apparent with the receipt of further course materials.

I think the B.A. essays I took for the UOL external system were easier than my J.D. exams. I think this was mostly true because the exams usually have great flexibility in allowing you questions to discuss (e.g. pick 5 essays out of 12 to discuss). What I did for those exams was to read as much information -- obviously in the course materials -- but especially anything written by professors (and/or referenced/suggested by them in footnotes or other subtle mentions) in the department. I would pretend each question was a very brief academic essay and try to copy stylistic elements of essays I had read in the area. Mostly this involved just following typical academic style format -- such as quick and dirty intro/thesis, problem, suggested solutions/arguments, and practical info, policy, issues that are needed for further research/neglected by arguments and/or conclusion depending on question -- because I had heard (not sure if this is true, but I did very well for the B.A., so maybe so) that writing more like an academic improved your grade.

The most challenging issue I think is time due to speed pressures. Much more challenging than even the exam is just the difficulty in studying properly due to work and life issues.


If you are curious before registering about the exams for the LLM, one good site I found is http://193.62.18.223/library/llm/llm.html (I don't think there is a WWW after http://) There is a link to look at past exams for the LLM in the left column of the page, including some for External Students in modules such as juvenile justice, sentencing and the criminal process, and some others. (I wish they had good and bad answers online too...)

 

Try http://193.62.18.223/library/llm/llm.htm

 

Dude

Your package should include core textbooks (you'll end up purchasing more - try Butterworths Publishing Online in the UK. If you buy books from Butterworths Online shipping is FREE!), study guides, student handbook, guide for exam techniques, past exam questions & answers, and regulations.

I spent about $400 CDN on books for this year so far. You'll also need a good law dictionary; again try Butterworths.

Best Regards.

 

Hi Worthingco:

Thanks for the tips! I really appreciate it. I was also wondering if you know of any online study groups for the LLB or anything like that?

 

Worthingco:

I see in your earlier post that you have signed up with Law Tutors Online. What has your experience been so far with this company? Thanks in advance!

 

Dude

Online Study Groups: none yet but I'm sure they do exist.

Law Tutors Online: can't really report much at this time as I've just started with them. Tutorship actually begins in October. Right now I'm doing a lot of perliminary reading based on the U of L's study guides. If your interested, check out their website.

What courses have you enrolled in?

 

Worthingco:

I enrolled in scheme A for the regular entry route. If I remember correctly, I believe my courses are: Criminal Law, Public Law (the former name of the course was Constitutional Law), English Legal System, and Elements of the Law of Contract. What courses and route are you studying?

 

Hey Dude.

I'm enrolled in graduate entry route "B" and taking (1) criminal, (2) public, and (3) English legal system.

 

Just out of curiosity worthingco, I was just wondering if you had already researched what you'll need in addition to an LLB from UOL to practice law in Canada? If so, of what does it consist?
Do you know of anyone else who is studying for the LLB? I'd be very interested in putting together some sort of online study group (I don't know how difficult it would be, but am definately very interested). I would think that putting some heads together could make the whole study process a little easier, by getting different viewpoints on the topics. What are your thoughts on that subject?
Thanks!

 

Dude

Hi dude.

I'll probably have to do about 1.5 years or so at a Canadian law school. Details can be found at Federation of Law Societies of Canada www.flsc.ca - look under "foreign lawyers evaluation guidelines". There is also a period of articles & the professional law training course through the Law Society of British Columbia. Its going to be a long haul but I'm looking forward to the challenge.

Law Tutors Online, from what I understand, has an online study group. I haven't started yet so I haven't come across anyone else reg'd in the LLB pgm. I think the study group is a good idea. My email is [email protected]

Incidently, what is your state bar's requirements to practice law where you live as far as a foreign law degree is concerned?

 

LLM getting like MBA

It has been interesting following this thread. The University of London LLM tends to be a generalist (with some special options) postgraduate degree and that is how it used to be for many years. Rather like the MBA. However, we now see being spawned a myriad of specialist LLM and MBA programmes so that you can take, for example, an LLM in heritage law, or land and property law, or hospitality and tourism law and so forth. Likewise with the MBA degree. There are similar specialist (or what they term 'named degrees' in the UK) MBA programmes, much to the concern of those who think the MBA should remain a generalist business management degree. I should point out that it tends to be the so-called 'new universities' in the Uk that are going down the specialist LLM and MBA degree routes.

'telfax'

 

Hi Worthingco,

I live in Alaska and the state bar's requirements to practice law with a UOL degree will be one additional year at an ABA law school. I don't think that will be too difficult to accomplish, and I'm certainly looking forward to beginning my studies.

My email is: [email protected] Feel free to contact me anytime about studies. I'm still looking into establishing a free online study site, and I'll keep you updated with my progress.