Penn State Scandal: Should Joe Paterno face charges too?

I hope UNL blows PSU out, and I hope they run up the score if they can.

 

The scramble to salvage the Penn brand …

I’m uncertain the current Board of Trustees is the same membership as regards when the alleged incident took place; yet, I would find it exceedingly difficult to consider that ALL PSU trustees were previously unaware of this event, e.g., just how high might the conspiracy of cover-up go? Perhaps an investigation (devoid of political influence) will in time reveal the truth (?).

 

I've never been uncivil on this board, but you are acting like an idiot. The estimated 1000 students that protested out of the total 95,000 represent a very small vocal minority. Also, if you review the videos, it looks like mostly freshman and sophomore students and half of them probably had no idea what they were even protesting, and I would bet never even looked at the grand jury report. This doesn't excuse their stupidity, but it does explain why. Even being a distant ed student, I'm ashamed at the way this was handled, but for you to label all students is pretty ignorant on your part.

 

Saying that students should be ashamed for supporting JoePa is "acting like an idiot"? OK. I already said that I am painting with a broad brush. I'm interested in what kind of recognition techniques you used to note that most of them are freshmen and sophomores?

How many students will show up at the game on Saturday? Another very small minority? I would think a one game protest over how this situation was handled would be in order. But, I understand it is college football and symbolic things like support for molested 10 year olds often fall by the wayside when the ole' huskers are-a-coming to town.

I usually don't tell people my MBA is from an online university (if I tell them about it in the first place) so I can imagine that it will be a bit uncomfortable for a while for PSU students and alumns (even DL ones) so I feel for you on that aspect.

 

Ugh.

Nike has no plans to change name of Joe Paterno Child Development Center, spokeswoman says (Allan Brettman, Playbooks and Profits blog, The Oregonian, November 9, 2011)

 

Sad... You'd think they would learn from what Penn State is going through publicly now.

 

Its the same mentality as occupy wall street. There are those among us that want to see no consequences for any actions. These are the same people that want abortion on demand, clemency for rapists and murderers and the abolition of the death penalty. They also think that if a person evades the law for long enough of a time, that person should be set free. An example being illegal immigration.
There are consequences for actions and celebrity status, racial status, economic status or any other personal attributes are invisible to the eyes of the law.

 

Hmm, abortions on demand? You seem to make a lot of glaring generalizations. When I hear terms like "abortion on demand", I get kind of skeptical. You opinon though.

Abner

 

I wish I lived in your world.

 

1. Joe Paterno at the very least will see the inside of a court room as a hostile witness. He'll be lucky to avoid prosecution as he'll surely be a target for charges by the DA (provided that the DA isn't on the take.)

2. The rioters are indicative of a small portion of the whole student body. To broad brush the entire student body based on the actions of a few is not appropriate.

3. The quality of Penn State academics is not in question here. Why we're even discussing this as some sort of academic reputation problem is unknown but calls into question the intellect, logic and worth of some posters on this forum more than the reputation of Penn State.

Regardless of this scandal or its outcome, people are still going to question the quality of UoP, Capella, Walden and thousands of other schools before Penn State ever comes up.

 

Nike is going to regret that decision.

 

You know, just to be sure I reread this thread and I'm not seeing anyone here that is questioning the academic quality of the school anywhere. Am I missing something?

 

Yes, there's more than one person referring to having no respect for the school whatsoever based on how they may handle this affair. The reason why you're missing something is because you're looking for an exact match.

Look back at the discussion regarding the student body and what it means to be a Nittany Lion.

 

Mark Madden is a reporter from Pittsburg who wrote an article about this 7 MONTHS AGO. Listen to him being interviewed on WEEI Sports Radio (Boston) and you will hear some amazing information.

http://audio.weei.com/a/48513214/mark-madden-talks-about-the-penn-state-scandal-and-drops-a-new-bomb-about-jerry-sandusky.htm

This is going to get bigger and bigger. It will extend well outside Penn State. I'll bet anything that the FBI is already involved. Every person who is indicted will give up every name they've got for a lighter sentence. We will be reading about this story for a long time.

Whether Paterno does time might depend on how much money he spends on his legal representation but one thing is sure, he's going to spend the rest of his life testifying at all the civil cases against Penn State (they've already started filing them). His legacy will go to Hell, where it belongs.

 

Ah... in that case I would be one of those people, but that has nothing to do with the academic quality of the school and everything to do with their ethics, priorities and of course crisis management. I am one of those in the market for a graduate certificate and I was giving Penn State quiet but serious consideration, but not now and likely not ever again. It has nothing to do with academic quality and everything to do with the aforementioned 3. We're not talking about NCAA violations here, we're not even talking about mass fraud (academic or otherwise) we're talking about the enabling and covering up of the actions of the worst, most despicable type of human predator on earth under the worst possible circumstances and for what? A game? Yeah...I can't get behind that.

 

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this results (and I'm going to be disapponted if it doesn't) in the NCAA Death Penalty for Penn State football;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_penalty_(NCAA)

 

It might. Now the DOE and the FBI are conducting investigations...yeah this will get ugly and the NCAA will be forced to take some kind of action to save face if nothing else. I am betting though that they do nothing until the criminal investigations are complete or at least uncover something really ugly.

Last night I was thinking about how this might impact the academics of the school and upon second thought I think this is going to hurt them. I saw some article talking about the school's credit rating could possibly be downgraded due to this mess (through mass firings and hurting donor contributions). Also as mentioned, donations may scale down. If the football program does get the "death penalty" from the NCAA you can bet your tail feathers there will be no more blue chip players and big TV contracts which will cripple the school financially.

Will a sudden loss of revenue hurt the academic quality of the school? Who can say, but with less money rolling around campus it might be harder to find talent in the classroom as much as on the field, but before ITJD makes the comparision again, I'm sure they'll still remain better reputationally than UofP, Walden and the others you named.

 

I don't know if it would cripple them (a $1.5 billion endowment is nothing to sneeze at), but it would definitely hurt, as it should. If nothing else comes of this for the institution, I hope it makes them re-think their culture where the football program was omnipotent and had to be protected at all costs.

 

True... even still I'm sure donations will slow (rightfully) and it will impact them, even if mildly so. I didn't realize the endowment was that friggin' big. Jeeeeezzzz.....

 

Noted. You'll find I'm really not that bad in response to anyone who clearly presents their point in a completely rational way. 10 percent of my approach is because I'm an aggressive personality and the other 90 percent is because I expect people to be able to express themselves rationally.

If we were talking about USC, LSU or Notre Dame (granted ND isn't a powerhouse at this point) I'd say that there's no chance that the NCAA will do anything severe as either of those schools could just start talking to other schools and pull out of the NCAA to do their own thing, cracking open the system. Because we're talking about northeast football, I think you may be on to something.

Ultimately this will blow over when the media stops talking about it. As much as my heart feels for these kids (and as far as I'm concerned the perp should just be gutted and hung on a meat hook) I don't believe the NCAA cares one bit about them and I don't think the average person cares either unless it's one of their kids getting hurt.