out of school learning

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  2. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Wait for the Kindle edition.
     
  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is expensive. However, an e-book version (PDF) is already advertised for download -free, from half a dozen sources. These are probably quite dark corners of the internet. Not recommending - just sayin'.

    J.
     
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  4. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    I'm vitally interested in the subject, since I've been learning outside of school all my life.

    But I wasn't impressed with their list of entries. Many of them seemed like fluff or tangential at best. (Click the google preview icon in the upper left of this page to get sample pages including the front-matter)

    https://us.sagepub.com/en-us/nam/the-sage-encyclopedia-of-out-of-school-learning/book240925#preview

    I don't think that this thing is really worth $395, unless you have money to throw around.
     
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    In my cursory Google check - availability of free PDFs - I also found quite a few "look what I've done now" pages by those who have written articles for this book. Likely hoping their entries in the Encyclopedia will make them better-known. I wish them luck ... I guess.

    J.
     
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  6. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    People can find pirate pdf copies of almost any book in print if they look the right (wrong) places.

    If you want to stay within the law and respect intellectual property, there are still countless ethical download opportunities out there for independent scholars and out-of-school learners.

    Visit professors' personal websites. They will typically have links to pdfs of their recent papers. It's easy to find copies of unpublished dissertations on university websites. Some journals have websites where articles are downloadable. Then there are the preprint archives, such as the University of Pittsburgh's extraordinary one covering the philosophy of science. (It has conference proceedings too.) There's Philpapers for philosophy papers. Many more.

    A few web searches can turn up hundreds of papers on any subject of interest. It can keep you reading for years, by which time a new crop of papers will have appeared.

    What's more, Archive.org and Google books have thousands of out-of-copyright book titles from university libraries downloadable in multiple formats.
     
  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Oh, how true!

    Also true - and good advice & sources, for which I thank you. Unfortunately, there are SO many people who choose not to play by the rules. Ergo, the number of sites where illicit copies are already available. As I said - I wasn't recommending this - just saying that, so soon after publication, who-knows-how-many people are already rejecting decimon's (and your) good advice and are not "waiting for the Kindle Edition."

    Just a comment - not an exhortation.

    J.
     
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  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Again - I agree that pirating books is not ethical. But when a single book costs $395, you can see why some people do it. Of course there are others, who would still go to the dark corners if the book cost $5, but I'm not talking about them right now.

    Who priced this darn thing, anyway? Martin Shkreli? :shock:

    J.
     

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