Ok, check this out. I have been watching these guys for around two years now. EC-Council offers IT certs and seem to be as reputable as any other cert group. Two interesting things from the site. 1. " The Master of Security Science degree will be awarded by EC-Council and partner University" A partner university? Wonder Who? 2. " The MSS program launch has been postponed due to delay with US Department of Education." Hmm, wonder what the holdup might be? Accreditation, student loan issues ... ? http://www.eccouncil.org/mss.htm Anyone have any ideas / thoughts / information about this program? Depending on the partner U, I might consider it. I am also considering the Charles Sturt program. http://www.itmasters.com.au/course/info_pack_miss.htm