Many nonprofits, donors profiting through loopholes

I saw that. No problem since I already have a BS in Business.

Appears they use the learning team model like the University of Phoenix:

Not sure if I want to go that route.

I do like their attitude with regards to other schools:

 

Senators Are Told of Widespread Tax Abuses by Donors to Colleges and Other Nonprofit Groups

The Chronicle of Higher Education April 6, 2005

http://chronicle.com/prm/daily/2005/04/2005040601n.htm

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I would most certainly expect that some students at a non-profit would receive a free education. My question is why is the overall number so small?

United States of America non-profit laws

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America_non-profit_laws

A For-profit exists to maximize the wealth of the stakeholders. Simple BUS 101.

The difference I see is that the For-profits are upfront about it.

A number of the non-profits are making plenty of money in basketball tournaments and football bowl games.

How much of this is filtering down to the students in the form of cheaper tuition?

Just my opinion

 

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Hi Carlos

You know the point you are making is very unclear. If you are suggesting for-profits have a place in the educational marketplace I don't think anyone would disagree. If you are trying to suggest they provida anything close to the service that non-profits provide there simplely is no evidence to support that. As you point out for-profits do exactly that. They put profits above all other goals. They are created around simplified models that emulate but come no where close to equaling the non-profits. On the positive side they provide pressure on the non-profits to keep programs simplier and student oriented. Take care.

Dave

 

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You are right. This doesn't make much sense unless you followed some of the older threads on this subject.


Where you don't like people saying the two are equal learning experiences (I agree) I don't think it is fair to say For-profits are the Evil Empire!

My BS is from a non-profit and was a great experience.

I am thinking of taking my MBA at NCU (for-profit) although I would much rather take it on campus at Nova Southeastern or Northern Arizona U (both non-profits)


There is good and bad in both.

 

Hi Dave,

I agree on the utility of the degrees if that is what you are talking about with for-profits and non-profits not being equals, although I have to say that barely anyone outside of VA (or even in VA) haha) has heard of Longwood, and they always know UOP, but that's not always a good thing

The thing that I find interesting about other people that are graduates of or work at for-profit schools is they tend to get so defensive when someone points out negative things. If people learn to accept that for-profit schools are what they are, and they are not going to receive the utility that a degree from say UVA or George Mason, they will be able to better deal with things. Most of the people that go to my school need a degree for a promotion or something of that sort, and we "check the box" as I've heard said before.


I worked hard on all of my degrees from NVCC on up, and have learned alot in the process, which will hopefully prepare me for what I have heard is a very rigorous MBA program at GWU.

Once again, I appreciate the comments, have a good rest of the weekend, it's beautiful here, hope it's the same where you live,

 

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Hi Dave,

Sorry, but after working in academia for so long, I've come to the realization that there is no such thing as a non-for-profit. Its not only me, but many others share similar views. I've been around many tenured proffessors who view the huge non-profit empire as one large money making corporation. They also have a huge contempt for the so called 'for-profits' or 'tax paying', particularly those without professional accreditation, but don't think that they regard the non-profit system as noble and caring as it makes itself out to be.

Quality wise, I agree that there is a difference. But then again, I've seen sleazy non-profits colleges that require high school level work and teach outdated material. Similarly, some for-profits are actually IMO very good like Argosy (APA) and others are terrible like the infamous UoP.

Take care,

Sulla