HI All, I just saw a web site for a university named "Madison University Distance Learning" www.madisonu.org It is not accredited by US department of Education, there are other organizations which do recognize it. Can any one give me an insight, whether it can be a good option for distance learning? Thanks, -Shezi.
You would be just as well served if you went to Kinko's and had your own diploma printed-up. Don't waste your money. What level degree and in what field interests you?
MadisonU.org apparently has dropped Doctorate programs I received information that MadisonU.org out of Gulfport, Mississippi will not be offering Doctorate programs effective Jan. 01, 05. I am wondering if they are seeking to initiate a application for a US rec. accreditor such as DETC. I have seen schools in the past drop doctorates to seek initial accreditation and some could survive without the lost revenues and some could not. Any ideas or opinions. Is MadisonU.org, a 3 year institution, seeking a begginning process for US rec. accreditation or another form? I have reviewed their programs and they do require coursework and dissertations etc. that appear to be in a similar format to some trdaitional DL programs that are RA. I do know from reviewing DETC's initial guidelines and fees that a university or institution who is applying for intitial accreditation, must be in operation and have a solid history of 2 years before submitting a application to even begin the process. I also can see that they had best have a good financial source of capital to even begin the process as it states that each course offered is $1000 to be evaluated. That would make a school with many degree offerings to possibly cost as much as a few hundred thousand$$$ or more. I guess every school that must be unaccredited in their initial existence.
Dear Mr Nelson: Why make excuses for a mill, a WAUC-ectoplasm, a transparent joke? IIRC, you are a student at Cal Coast, a substantive unaccredited school (whatever its strengths and weaknesses). You should be royally p----d off at outfits like this, which help to ruin the credibility of any unaccredited degree. It's not my ox being gored. It's yours. Best wishes in your studies. Janko Preotul
Hi Shezi: Welcome to the board. In answer to your question: nonononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononoonononononononononononononononono. But I repeat myself. Please tell us what sort of programs you are interested in, and I am sure that someone here will have some useful information to share, so that you can reach your goals without getting ripped off, or stuck with an inferior or useless degree. Everyone here has, I suppose, looked at a "mill" before finding out more information and moving on to more profitable choices. Best of luck in your search. Janko
Uncle Janko, Although your post name does remind me of a cuddly individual in which one could sit in your lap, kind of like Santa, I still must say that I think you have read either between the lines or made a assumption in my post. I simply asked a question of " opinion " as to why a 3 year old school would drop a doctoral program? It has to be a revenue generator unless their is either a legal reason to do so, or a attempt to place a initial accreditation application. Just my guess. I would not call it a defense, simply a causse of curiosity. No need to reply on this one unless someone feels deemed necessary and or knows more than I do on " Why ."
oops Well, I am warm, cuddly, and Santa-esque, but you can stay the hell off my lap, Nelson. I'm not that kind of Lutheran. Thank you for the clarification of your view of "Madison." My criticism still stands, though, and regrettably, that mills help wreck the credibility of substantive unaccredited schools. Some other Cal Coast posters did take the Leninist the-worse-the-better tack of promoting really crappy unaccredited schools and even outright mills on the stupid and misguided notion that a rising tide lifts all boats. My apologies for attributing this to you. That strategy made me wince every time I saw it, since I will happily acknowledge that there are a few substantive unaccredited schools, possibly substandard academically, but certainly ethical and by no means frauds. Lacking the benchmark of accreditation, however, the credibility fight of those schools is steeply uphill all the way.(with a very very few academically solid or even excellent exceptions like Bill Dayson's high-tech schools and Buddhist institutions, BJU, WLS, and not very many more). Regards, Janko Preotul
Inadequate accreditations and memberships First, if they are going too applied to U.S. National Accreditation, they have to drop their inadequate accreditations and memberships, exclusively, this: www.nahighered.org http://www.madisonu.com/WAUC/index.htm I do not thing that a U.S. National Accreditation Company, would like to endorse a school with that kind of uncommon accreditations and memberships.
Re: Inadequate accreditations and memberships My guess is that it would also have to stop being a diploma mill. Just a guess, though. Tom Nixon