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  1. Mighty_Tiki

    Mighty_Tiki Member

    Another poster asked for a citation when I referred to IACBE as a legitimate professional business accrediting, although unrecognized by CHEA, body. The reason I state it is a legitimate body is there are a number of institutions whose business departments hold this accreditation and an extremely high percentage of them are also RA. As for the citations for this information one just needs to explore the website of IACBE and peruse the colleges that hold this accreditation - one in particular near me is Salve Regina in Newport, RI. I can assure you this school is not sub par by any means and holds this accreditation voluntarily as a sign of the quality of it's business program. This is only one of many. The other reason it is not appropriate to lump this accreditor in with the garbage accreditor that accredits Breyer State is these very discussion boards. All one has to do is search these boards over the last six years to find out the different perceived levels of professional accreditation that exists for business programs. It is widely held in the discussions I myself have read on these very boards in the past near 4 years I have been hanging around that - #1 AACSB #2 ACBSP #3 IACBE #4 Plain ole' RA.
    So you want sources - here you go look them over -

    http://www.iacbe.org/
    http://www.salve.edu/about/index.cfm

    For the other source, just do a search of the boards.
     
  2. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Hi. Don't let that NoCentral U shill bother you... I suspect it is someone in the administration who is wasting time promoting the school on this board and attempting to discredit other posters, when they could be helping students.

    Yes, IACBE is perfectly legitimate but the least prestigious of the programmatic accreditors for business administration. This page explains how they position themselves with the other accrediting bodies:

    http://www.iacbe.org/html/accreditation_faqs.html

    Dave
     
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  3. RobbCD

    RobbCD New Member

    Dave,

    What, in your estimation, is wrong with NCU that is not wrong with CPU or Breyer "State U"? It seems odd to me that you would criticize a regionally accredited school so vociferously and turn around and praise and defend two unaccredited, state approved schools. All three are private and for profit, but only NCU has taken the step of becoming regionally accredited. This gives NCU degrees utility that CPU and BSU do not.

    On a different topic, I'm a football fan, and my team (NYG) plays in the NFC Eastern division. The Dallas Cowboys are also in the NFC East. I don't hate the Cowboys (not even when Aikman was bringing home ring after ring), but I do hate Cowboys fans (they're bizarrely cocky, or at least they were back in the day). Maybe it's the same for you and NCU.

    Anyway, have a great day.
     
  4. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    Simple NCU Shadows under the Gray Umbrella (you will only know this if you were student there, I was). It has been stated many millions of time the limit utility of Unacredited degrees. Some states are indicating that their illegal (state approved degree), Florida had same issue in the past and the law was challege and was change. So that is not an issue. So we know at least me the limitation of state approved degree, but the fact is(and thanks to them state approved degree) that I can still do work in RA Schools :D NCU became regional accredited in Arizona because they could not do it from their home town CA(NCU= AKA SCUPS).
     
  5. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Thanks for asking...

    You may have selected the wrong word to describe my discussions of NoCentral U. Also, you may want to read more of the threads. I have nothing against NoCentral U, except that it is promoted heavily on this board by anonymous shills and trolls who are obviously employees/agents of the school. It is a small school in the entire context of DL, yet the shills/trolls repeatedly post vacuous messages about the school. When the school is substantively discussed, the shills/trolls attack anyone with alternate views and frequently create new anonymous accounts to do so. PM me and I'll send you a list of 8 accounts I've catalogued so far that have been used by one or more NoCentral shills/trolls. Again, read up and you'll see.

    With respect to unaccredited schools, I support their right to exist, and to legally and legitimately execute their mission, but also faithfully point out their good and bad points, as I understand them. Ironically, NoCentral U is the spawn of SCUPS, an unaccredited school, so it is actually incorrect to dismiss all unaccredited schools as one way or another. That's sort of the problem with them; unaccredited schools are tough to classify and so students should generally avoid them, unless they offer something unique. Unaccredited schools are sometimes substandard in their requirements but they are all fairly difficult to classify.

    Dave
     
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  6. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    The requested citation was in regards to whether the IACBE is recognized by CHEA or the Department of Education. Is the IACBE CHEA\Dept of Education recognized or not?

    Neither one of your references prove me wrong!
     
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  7. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    Why isn't the IACBE CHEA or US Dept recognized if it is a quality organization? According to CHEA recognition was again deferred this year. Not exactly a resounding endorsement of the IACBE.

    Again, a citation of what I claim:

    http://www.acbsp.org/download.php?sid=867

     
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  8. Mighty_Tiki

    Mighty_Tiki Member

    You take this to be fact? This is an article by a competing entity. It even says that in the newsletter. You have based your opinion on complete hearsay. I am not here to argue, or "prove you wrong" - there is no reason for that as you have based your opinions on someone else's conclusions. This man does not know why IACBE withdrew their application from CHEA, only IACBE knows this. As far as "stained in history" well, marketing is all in the persuasion. I didn't know these two entities had such a turbulent past.
     
  9. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    OK, how about this:

    http://www.chea.org/Events/BoardMeetings/CHEA_BOD_Summary0107.pdf

    This is from CHEA:

    I claim they are not CHEA or Dept of Education recognized. Nothing more. They certainly are having problems getting recognized, aren't they.
     

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