I love to call someone's bluff

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Bruce, Sep 15, 2005.

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  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I was going to let this post slide until "plscott" called me out by name.

    I have worked with exactly two unaccredited schools, Virginia International University and Greenwich University. Let's look at those two cases, shall we?

    VIU was a start-up when I taught some night classes for them. My goal was to help them get accredited, but 9/11 really crushed them. (All of their students come from overseas.) They've struggled financially, which really hurts their accreditation prospects. When that became clear, I stopped teaching for them. I don't see any conflict in teaching for a start-up working towards accreditation, and I don't see any conflict in pursuing such a degree (assuming the risk, of course, that the school won't get accredited). VIU is a B&M school that can hardly be compared to the degree mills we so commonly speak of.

    Greenwich was a start-up opportunity as well. Created from the IIAS, Greenwich was the opportunity to build a DL school around some solid principles. This was in the late 1980's, where many legitimate DL schools operated without accreditation. But a lot has changed since then, and such a strategy for earning a degree just cannot be supported anymore. I taught one student and did internship work (for my Ph.D. at Union) at Greenwich. NB: The fools at DLDI make great hay about John locating Greenwich in Hawaii. Well, it was located in Hawaii because that's where John lived! D-uh! :rolleyes:

    So, I've been involved with two start-ups. Three if you count MIGS, but MIGS was never unaccredited. There is no reason to be any less cautionary regarding taking degrees from unaccredited schools. In fact, I think my experiences give me a stronger perspective on that subject than most posters.

    A lot has changed in the 26 years I've been involved with this field. As circumstances have changed, I've had to change my points of view to reflect them. Instead of trying to paint all of those experiences with one broad stroke, why don't you try saying something specific instead? If you have a particular question or statement about me, go ahead and I'll answer it. Otherwise, this is all territory I've covered numerous times before, and it gets tiresome answering vague insinuations like the one you made.
     

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