Doctoral Level & The Institution

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Which institution would you choose for your Ph.D program and why?

  1. Northcentral University

    22 vote(s)
    31.9%
  2. Nova Southeastern University

    13 vote(s)
    18.8%
  3. Capella University

    4 vote(s)
    5.8%
  4. University of Phoenix

    1 vote(s)
    1.4%
  5. Walden University

    1 vote(s)
    1.4%
  6. Others (Touro University International, and etc.)

    28 vote(s)
    40.6%
  1. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    Nova Southeastern University is my first choice. They have a DBA in International Business or marketing (not sure which I want), admissions requirements that include the GMAT (already took and exceeded the minimum requirement), minimum GPA and RA or equivalent masters. B&M school with a distance learning component including medical, dental, and law school. Most likely of the major US DL programs to achieve AACSB if they so desire. Largest library in the State of Florida. Face to face classes which I consider a must.

    Solid US non-profit school that is unlikely to be sold or closed anytime soon. I have a home within 20 miles of the main campus in Davie, FL. The NCAA II soccer, basketball, and baseball teams are a plus!
     
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  2. adireynolds

    adireynolds New Member

    Although I've completed a great deal of doctoral work at Capella, I decided to resume my studies at NCU. The factors were: more independent study, cost, no further residencies (a big plus, since I live in the Middle East), and having an Ed.D. track, since I want to refocus my dissertation studies to something less theoretical in nature.

    Also, I have no plans to return to academic teaching, so as long as the school is RA, that's enough for me.

    But I concur with other posters in this thread -- I think all the schools mentioned are fine; it's just a matter of the best fit for your personal situation.

    Cheers,
    Adrienne
     
  3. macattack

    macattack New Member

    Yikes! Does anyone think their accrediting agencies will have a problem with this?
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That's true. Also, Rich is right about Fielding. If you're going to spend all that money for one of the other American schools on the list, Fielding's a great choice.

    -=Steve=-
     
  5. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    Why would they?
     
  6. macattack

    macattack New Member

    They require a bachelors degree for a masters, but not a doctoral degree? I guess it is just a little interesting.

    As I understand Aspen no longer admits people at the masters level without a bachelors. I think this was due to a change at the DETC level. Of course I could be wrong, although I did get that info here.

    Aspen's current admission page is here: http://www.aspen.edu/requirements.htm

    Anyway, I don't know the standards for accreditation at the RA and AACSB level, so I posted the question. I was just thinking if DETC had a problem with it, perhaps other, higher level accrediting bodies would as well.

    Thats why.
     
  7. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    Oh, I think I missed part of your post. I thought you were talking about the NA Masters but you meant the PhD with no Bachelors. Check.

    NCU still requires you to have 120 undergrad credits, with is a lot LIKE having a bachelors degree, I agree not exactly, but still pretty close IMHO.
     
  8. macattack

    macattack New Member

    I voted Nova, but only if I get serious about FT academia. Solid B&M and proven program with concentrations in accounting and finance (in-demand fields).

    Otherwise, if I decide to go the consulting and adjunct route, I vote NCU for it's lower cost and convenience.

    There are other reasons for each choice but those are at the top of the list.
     
  9. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    He was saying that you could get into NCU's PhD program with a master's degree, even if your master's had required no bachelor's.
     
  10. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    Oh, well then I go back to not caring. I believe degree’s stand on their own. If you need degree B for something, the idea that because you don’t have something else that you don’t need (say degree A) seems like an odd thing to worry about.
     
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    You could probably do that at a lot of schools if you were otherwise a good candidate and had a decent Master's. Getting one without a Bachelor's might be a challenge, but there's always the Heriot-Watt MBA.

    Similarly, the University of the West Indies has a program where one with no Bachelor's can do an MBA by taking undergraduate bridge courses. Adella's Mom did that. (No distance learning option, though, she had to visit Barbados fairly often.) She's considering doctoral work now as well.

    -=Steve=-
     
  12. BlackBird

    BlackBird Member

    I went through Capella's school of psychology because:

    1. It was the only Distance Ph.D. in Family Psychology at the time that permitted you to study Family Systems as a specialty and also provide you with a Ph.D. in "Psychology."

    2. One of the few distance schools letting you pay for only classes you take (unlike Saybrook and others where you pay for a whole year regardless of how many classes you take).

    3. They were seeking multiple programmatic accreditations (now only distance school that is C.A.C.R.E.P. accredited , and maybe A.P.A. in the future).

    4. Permitted me to transfer a whole year of my Counseling Psychology Masters into the Ph.D.

    5. Had some residency and those at a variety of locations in the USA. These are called Colloquias.

    6. The price, at the time, was affordable and fundable via student loans.
     
  13. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    None of the above. Preferably a B&M institution that offers external registration for a doctorate, like Aston or Manchester.
     
  14. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Wow! After reviewed the poll, I realize not many want to receive their Doctoral degree from University of Phoenix. Well, talking about University of Phoenix. I have a Marine who left active duty, and uses his MGIB for school. He attends online school at University of Phoenix online. I asked him why he doesn't choose other instutition instead UoP. He replied," University of Phoenix is so popular, once I graduate...it is easy for me to get the job." I laughed so hard, but I have nothing to against UoP; the only thing that the institution's public opinion are on and off. Don't know who I would listen to.

    :)
     
  15. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Ditto - also the concentrations available.
     
  16. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    I recommend that you re-think your response choices in this poll. Touro and Northcentral are the only two programs on your list that are delivered in the online modality. The rest are either cohort or residency based; and they have other differences. In sum, you're asking the respondent to compare apples to oranges, which is going to cripple your interpretation of the data.

    Dave
     
  17. st22345

    st22345 Member

    I'm undecided, but I'm leaning towards...

    This is an interesting thread, although I agree with Dave's concerns about the apples to apples comparison.
    I'm undecided, but I'm leaning towards Regent University http://www.regent.edu/acad/global/academics/home.shtml (Ph.D. in Organzational Leadership), Nova Southeastern http://www.huizenga.nova.edu/(DBA Finance) or North Central http://www.ncu.edu/degree_programs.asp(NCU - DBA in Finance or Applied Computer Science). Touro University International's http://www.tourouniversity.edu/ cost is better, but their website hasn't answered enough of my questions yet. I agree that Nova probably has a better chance of acheiving AACSB certification.
    I had a professor who actually has two doctoral degrees from Nova and he couldn't say enough good things about them. But he travelled to Florida quite a bit to complete his second doctorate. I don't mind a residency once or even twice a year, but I don't want to do that more frequently.
    As I get closer to finishing my MBA over the next year, I'll make my final decision. What will really drive my decision is what I plan on doing with the doctorate, which I better decide during the next year.
     
  18. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    Does anyone know if they are actually going to go for AACSB?
     
  19. Jodokk

    Jodokk Member

    Hmm...

    Fielding, because it is APA.
     
  20. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Good point, if NCU and TUI were out, I would go with Nova.
     

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