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  1. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    *sniff*sniff* Someone made a joke that I don't like!*sniff*sniff*. Now I'm going to post my usual condescending tripe, all the while attempting to keep the upper hand behind my snarky patois way.


    *stomps feet* Harrumph!
     
  2. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I'm just going to sidestep this pothole and get back on topic for a second...

    I don't ever want my daughter, or anyone's daughter, to have to sell themselves to get an education. That said I feel that this, like any other relationship, has the potential to be either mutually beneficial or abusive.

    It sounds like the young woman featured here forged a relationship that works for both her and her benefactor. She says they are friends. The intimate details of their arrangement are none of our business. Maybe it's a purely quid pro quo with sex being paid for with tuition. Maybe it is two lonely people who found a way to help one another in a way that works for them. I don't know.

    One thing that always bothers me is when people decide that a fully competent adult is incapable of making an adult decision for themselves. I've heard people say that anyone who uses the services of a prostitute should be registered as a sex offender upon being caught (and convicted) because prostitutes are, essentially, incapable of giving consent since no "normal" person would ever consent to selling sex. It's a notion that I had previously seen applied to anyone who wanted to commit suicide but that has shifted in recent years. There is a difference between a 17 year old wanting to end it all because of girlfriend trouble and a 63 year old with a diagnosis of early stage Alzheimers wanting to end life on his/her terms. To say the least it challenges the popular catch phrases like "it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem."

    Trafficking, slavery and abuse are all problems in the world of prostitution. But there are situations, like this one, that challenge the notion that all women involved are victims. The trick is to try to protect the victims while also protecting the rights of consenting adults to do what they do behind closed doors.
     
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I agree, that's outrageously condescending.
     
  4. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    The truth hurts.
     
  5. Maxwell_Smart

    Maxwell_Smart Active Member

    Okay, timeout. You are WAAAAY out of bounds. WAY. I'm stunned.

    I did NOT say ANYTHING that was "making light of violence against women", that is inaccurate and absolutely ridiculous. I didn't even MENTION women as a target of violence in that sentence. You should be ashamed of yourself to even try that. What's wrong with you?

    If you actually read the comment and the context it can be easily understood that I was responding to Kristen Houser's injection of the violence risk (which btw she did NOT state was only against women, or men for that matter) that on its own is nothing more than an out-of-place appeal to emotion, which she obviously injected because she dislikes the concept of the site being discussed and figured this was the string she needed to play to shed the most negative light on it. When you read the article you'll also see that the author saw the issue as two-sided, not simply against women. So how you came to the conclusion you did is just plain disturbing.

    Nevertheless, Women's Studies is nothing more than an indoctrination into a world of perpetual victimhood, paranoia, fear porn, revisionist history, and a poorly-veiled hatred for men, and some of these responses illustrate the type of environment that emanates from it. It causes people to see victim circumstances for women in situations where none exist.

    I have had enough examination into that major to know it's trash and I'm not about to give it any more credence than I would a major in Basket Weaving. I take that back, because at least with basket weaving a student would learn a useful skill that adds something of value to society.
     
  6. Maxwell_Smart

    Maxwell_Smart Active Member

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  7. Maxwell_Smart

    Maxwell_Smart Active Member

    Awww, Rich. If that's your way of trying to find out which burger joint I own so you can come in and invite me over to your pad, no need, I accept the invitation right here!

    Just make sure, in case I need to use the John, that you have that nontraditional diploma nearby and handy, or the dissertation. Either will do.
     
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  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I hope you sober up in time to edit that post.

    I'm sure no one around here knows what a "nontraditional diploma" is. A "nontraditional dissertation" is more sensible, but I didn't do one.

    Now, blow into a tube and call a cab.
     
  9. Maxwell_Smart

    Maxwell_Smart Active Member

    Hahaha. Awww, Rich, so kind. Always thinking of the well-being of others.

    Not to worry, I was certain of what I was saying. I was capturing nontraditional education in its proper light... right next to Metaphysical Theology:

    Energy Healing Degree - Non-Traditional - Metaphysical Theology
     
  10. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    "The trick is to try to protect the victims while also protecting the rights of consenting adults to do what they do behind closed doors."

    That's part of the problem with many things. So many people concern themselves with what people do in the privacy of their own bedroom. I just don't care if they are not harming anyone else. I also don't care that my friend Craig has a whole arsenal of weapons (an entire room) in his house. It his business, and I don't like to concern myself with other people's business.
     
  11. jhp

    jhp Member

    :blackeye:I find this whole article highly sexist.

    there is only single sentence of the much darker aspect of sugar mommies.

    Why can't we discuss "sugar mommies"? What about good looking college men who struggle with finances, where they have to "sell themselves"? Why is that not a news?

    :sasmokin:
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Adella and I have joked that when she makes partner, we'll get "sugar mama" and "sugar baby" t-shirts.
     
  13. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    If you had actually read the article, you would have known that they make "sugar mommy" arrangements too.
     
  14. jhp

    jhp Member

    Please re-read my post.
     

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