Capella Faculty Member Named President-Elect of APA Division 50

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Amigo, Aug 12, 2006.

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  1. PaulC

    PaulC Member

    Capella, while not selective, is by no stretch open enrollment. Various programs have various requirements and all have minimum GPA criteria.
     
  2. glimeber

    glimeber New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Capella Faculty Member Named President-Elect of APA Division 50

    Amigo....you will find that anytime you place the word Capella in the subject line or even if you are supportive of Capella it will spark a signficant reponse from the viewership. Trust me I have purposefully done this time and again to generate a debate. Interesting how the viewing/posting will take off when Capella is injected into a debate. Sometimes it will last for days. Usually it is the same Capella hating/bashing posters. Most of the response is I think because the work that Capella has done in a relatively short period of time is minimizing the Big 3 egos that tend to populate this forum. They will, of course, attempt to rationalize their comments within the same old tired FP v. NFP debate but the fact of the matter is Capella is doing what most of the Big 3 alumni only wished their school was/is doing.
     
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Capella Faculty Member Named President-Elect of APA Division 50

    Actually, the only truly reliable response to a thread mentioning Capella is that you will issue this dire warning. Capella has its detractors, but many people, Big Three alumni included, give it credit where it's due. For example, its Psychology department really seems to be getting a lot of positive notice.

    Having said that, no, I do not wish Charter Oak would do what Capella is doing. I like it that they are small and focused on independent learners. If they homogenized, something special would be lost.

    -=Steve=-
     
  4. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    And Capella offers very few and focused undergraduate programs, exclusively in Business and Technology and all based, I think, on requisite coursework from Capella, while the whole point of the Big Three is to offer many more options and with no same-school coursework requirements. In fact, I'm sure Big Three bachelor's (or master's) graduates go to Capella for their master's or doctorate at a far, far greater rate than graduates of any other three schools you could find anywhere. I really don't see the conflict.
     
  5. glimeber

    glimeber New Member

    None of that is the point my friend. The point is that while the Big Three proponents that populate this forum are lightning quick to point out any issue in which they feel are not up to their arrogant standards they are damn quiet about the same (or similar) issues at their own school. They, likewise, just convieeeeeeeeeeeently keep their mouths shut when other negative issues about thier own school just happen to make themselves public. Look - all schools have issues. Capella, Union, Walden, Saybrook and yes...even the holy Big 3 (still waiting for a clear answer to why the Big 3 think they are the Big 3 but that is another story). My whole issue is that Capella tends to be more roughly treated in this forum whereas the Big 3 (and some others) are handled with kid gloves. I have been around here long enough to know that is the fact. For that reason, I always look at the posts with a pretty jaundice eye. Newbies searching for a school don't necessarily have that luxury and to me the treatment and skewing of reality produces a real disservices to future students/learners or whatever we choose to call them.
     
  6. Amigo

    Amigo New Member

    Could you be more specific about this "Big 3"? The schools above are fairly large so I don't know why they are not in anyone's big 3 list.
     
  7. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    The Big Three - Charter Oak State College www.cosc.edu , Excelsior College www.excelsior.edu (formerly known as Regents College), and Thomas Edison State College www.tesc.edu - are the Big Three because they were the first to offer entire degrees based on a combination of testing out procedures, prior learning portfolio assessments, transfer credits, etc.
     
  8. glimeber

    glimeber New Member

    In other words - to be accurate - the "Big" 3 should be referred to as the "First" 3? Now that you have clarified that (and knowing that the posters on this forum demand - no scream for - accuracy and truth) can I assume that we will all be referring to them - the Big 3 that is - as the First 3 <breathy snicker, snicker, snicker>?
     
  9. glimeber

    glimeber New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Capella Faculty Member Named President-Elect of APA Division 50

    Oh......my.......gosh........interesting little bit of horn tooting on the COSU website. Look forward to hearing the comments regarding the same when it is one of the Big 3 doing the horn tooting (and not Capella). Certainly hope the posters on this groups will be holding COSU as accountable as they do Capella.


    From Charter Oak to Chief

    Charter Oak Graduate Named Hartford, CT Police Chief


    Like many Charter Oak graduates, Daryl Roberts is a testament to the power of hard work and dedication. Raised by a single mother in inner-city neighborhoods, Roberts worked his way up the ranks of the Hartford police force to be named Chief on July 12, 2006.

    Chief Roberts joined the force as a patrol officer in 1982. Since then he has commanded numerous divisions, and earned multiple awards including Distinguished Service Medals, Exemplary Service Medals, a Merit Award, and the department’s highest honor, the Chief’s Medal of Valor. Along the way, Roberts assured his advancement potential by completing a Bachelor of Science degree with honors from Charter Oak State College.

    Consistent with many other Charter Oak grads, he balanced his education and career with family and community service. Married for over twenty years, he is the father of three daughters, and a Deacon at his church. In a message to the Hartford community Daryl stated, “I still believe that anything is possible when we support each other and expect great things.”

    Charter Oak is proud to have supported Chief Roberts in his educational accomplishments, and we congratulate him on the many great things he has achieved!

    :D
     
  10. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Or the "Only" 3. To my knowledge, there is no other regionally or nationally accredited, candidate, or accreditation-track new entrant school, nor is there any other equivalently recognized college or university on earth, that do the 100% assessment thing they've been doing successfully for decades.

    The idea that these three schools and Capella - or Walden, NCU, Phoenix (except that a good enough share of Phoenix's business is offering business and technology bachelor's degrees, which the Big Three also offer, but so do thousands of schools), etc. - are in any great measure adversarial, "competitive" any more than any other set of schools targetting broadly overlapping student pools, etc. - seems to be a product of some long-ago, overblown degreeinfo thread or two rather than one single thing going on in the real world. I think, with respect, it would best be let go.
     
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  11. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Perhaps the issue of "Big Three" or "First Three" or even "Only Three" needs a little marketing lesson. In marketing, there is the concept of positioning, which refers to the perception of your company in the public mind. One of the little factoids that one learns about in Ries & Trout's _Positioning_ is that the human mind has the need to "hang things on mental hooks" and so creates categories and there is generally room for about three or four in a category. [Note, when things get bigger than the three or four, they get broken up into smaller bite-size pieces, e.g., phone numbers are three numbers, dash, three numbers, dash, and four numbers; Social Security numbers are three numbers, dash, two numbers, dash, and four numbers, etc.] That is why the "Big" Anything usually numbers three (colleges with degrees by examination, car companies, etc.). In positioning, in order for a smaller company to move up eventually to the number one positioning in the public mind, regardless of the smaller company's own efforts, it usually requires some major marketing mistake on the part of number one for number two to take their place at number one. Note that the "We try harder, at Avis we don't know a better way" ads used to openly say "We're number two." Therefore, even if there were at least three other U. S. colleges offering degrees by examination (and maybe Governors State, Ohip U, and Western Governors come close), it would require an entire series of major marketing mistakes to simultaneously knock Charter Oak, Excelsior, and Thomas Edison out of Big Three status. In other words, regardless of product/service category, normally the First Three are the Big Three and they will be guaranteed to remain so as long as they are the Only Three.
     

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