Canadian without a gun...

My wife and I got ours years ago but never got the gun to carry! We did it for fun

 

This woman didn't have a gun either.

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Hey, this guy looks like Obama's son too! Or maybe Obama could have been him a few years ago.

 

You are very fortunate. My state JUST passed a concealed carry bill a few weeks ago (yes, we were the LAST state to finally have some form of concealed carry).

Since the State Police have 6 months until they are required to accept applications, and 90 days to approve and application, most estimates are that the first permits won't be issued until April of next year. However, I plan on being part of that first group that submits their forms and gets their CCW permits.

I'm thinking of carrying a Ruger LC9 or a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield in 9mm. It will make a really cool pre-graduation present to myself.

 

We intend to tote Glock 19's when possible. I have a drawer full though, kinda like picking a watch,...you wear something appropriate to your outfit and activities for the day.

God bless America!

 

Like picking a watch - good one! :smile: Contrary to popular belief, legal handgun ownership is possible in Canada. But if you keep it in a drawer -- you can get booked for careless storage of a firearm. It has to be locked up - and kept in a locked case while you're on your way to your registered gun club - which is the only place you can fire it. You have to get there by the shortest route, non-stop. Don't stop on the way for a pack of gum - not allowed.

Johann

 

Well, pretty much. There are self-defence situations. If it's a burglary etc. you can to use force appropriate to the threat you face - knife, gun etc. If you're in the living room and you can't go to the kitchen to select a knife, etc. then I believe you could shoot a knife-wielding intruder. But don't plant one between his eyes. That's never appropriate! (Impolite in Canada! :smile: ) Shoot to disable or injure - that's the rule.

There are some few exceptions to the equal-force doctrine: e.g. 100 lb. woman vs. 220-lb man, but AFAIK that's as far as it goes.

Johann

 

Smells like freedom!

So basically the OP is about a guy who had no real method to defend himself bragging about the outcome?

I like Canadian Beer.

 

Right. We don't get to enjoy the arms-related freedoms of the US.

It's sad, here. Our poor, unfortunate thugs have to buy their guns at full retail in the US and smuggle them in. Some also re-sell them, singly or in bulk to other criminals for 10 times what they paid the US retailer. Good racket, I guess -- until they get caught.

Right again, in that Brian Hatch had no real way of defending himself. So instead, he ended up doing some good. Bragging about the outcome? Sure. But at least it's a happy one, and not all that frequent - anywhere. My take: a story with a happy ending. I'm pointing no fingers - in any direction.

I used to. I never liked American beer. Aargh! For some years, I drank only German beer. Ja! Das Beste! (The best!) :smile: Then 8-9 years ago, I quit altogether. Giving up 2 German beers a day, I've saved enough for a reasonably-priced new car or a well-used Jag, and I'm closing in on the price of a DETC doctorate. That beer is expensive, here!

Johann

 

I was quoting Kenny Powers...but thanks for pointing out how much we suck. Good news is we're still number one in confidence!

 

I won't start on the whole fast and furious debacle. It would demonstrate that some geographic locations the US will actually subsidize the purchase of your gun.

Your story does have a happy ending, one I fully support...but I think it's a disingenuous story that compares apples to say...fish. That a black youth in frozen Canada where you can't even have a handgun escaped to the kitchen of a nice suburban couple has nothing to do with a guy in a tropical climate getting his head bashed into the concrete and defending himself as is a basic human right.

I met a few Canadians that described "coffee milk" to me....big thing where they lives (I forget where exactly), turns out I love it too. Basically half coffee half milk and comes sweetened and steaming hot. You guys have a right idea every now and then. Oh, and thanks for your help in WW1 and 2, used to be all of North America was full of freedom loving people willing to fight when it was good vs evil. Sadly much less true these days...hell, I don't even agree with popular definition of what evil is these days. But then again I'm OK being an outlier.

 

Or some other US freedoms. For instance, we have hate-speech laws that have some teeth in 'em, running contrary to your First Amendment rights. But if these laws protect people, I can live with them, happily. Our anti-hate provisions are far from perfect...but I like having them 'way better than having none.

Johann

 

See this is where we have a fundamental difference of opinion. I value the rights and responsibilities of the individual over the collective. Your side is certainly on the upswing right now...a fact I lament as it means the passing of things I hold dear. You and I can share a beer or a coffee...but I wouldn't want you marrying my sister.

 

No, I agree it doesn't. Then again, I didn't bring up the head-bashing-concrete story.

Johann

 

Then you have absolutely nothing to worry about! :lol:

Johann